What do you think is the best choice for concealed carry? - Page 2

Excalibur · #11 12-03-2009, 04:50 AM

I'd carry around a 9mm compact with me with a combat load and that should be more than enough. Even if I get ganged up on for some odd reason, me shooting my gun off would scare them off.

Yournamehere · #12 12-03-2009, 06:01 AM

You should never fire warning shots. Warning shots are bullshit (hehe reference). Seriously, though, if it gets to the point where you feel your life or anyone's is truly threatened, you shoot your gun to physically neutralize the threat, not mentally neutralize it. Whenever you fire your gun, the bullet has to go somewhere, and firing it to warn someone WILL end up hurting someone or something else, and when you have to talk to the police and you tell them you fired random warning shots, you end up sounding like a paranoid gun nut (yes I said it) who shouldn't have a gun in the first place. A (key word) "defensive" firearm should be used to neutralize threats to the users or any civilian's life or safety that may be encountered, not scare these threats away. I know some guys who have gotten in trouble for just brandishing their guns (which is the next worst thing to shooting it willynilly). You can make up your mind beforehand and have a plan for action, or give a verbal warning, but the firearm is not a tool for warning.

AdAstra2009 · #13 12-03-2009, 07:03 AM

umm aren't most muggings of CCW holders thwarted by just brandishing the weapon?

Yournamehere · #14 12-03-2009, 10:30 AM

First and foremost, I am not an expert or a concealed carry holder, these are all hypothetical situations, and personal opinions I have gathered from my own reading. You should consult your local, state and/or federal law when deciding on tactics to use in the event you are accosted while carrying your weapon. You should also never provoke potential threatsor anyone for that matter, because you are asking for trouble, and that isn't really defense, now, is it?

Also, to me, "brandishing" is to reveal that you have a weapon by flashing it or holding it casually, and qualifies as a warning. Drawing and aiming counts as an action as you have crossed a line by establishing you are ready to use it. The latter is what I've heard most people do, but usually after a verbal warning. The former is a poor tactic and, while it may deter someone, it might just let them know "hey if I can get his gun.....".

I don't have a statistic to confirm that "brandishing" stops most muggings of CCW holders, but how one handles theirself in a situation that calls for their firearm depends on local law, the threat level as perceived by the victim in question and how that victim thinks they should handle the situation based on the first two. I'm not saying that everyone who harasses you should be shot, but you are responsible for your own actions.

For example, if you're being mugged by someone with no weapon, who is just grabbing you looking for your wallet, using your gun might not be necessary, physical force and a warning might be alright.

If they have a knife, drawing and aiming might be a good idea if they are at a fair distance. If they are too close and you feel they might use the knife to harm you, you can try and get some distance and aim, or try and shoot them point blank, though discharging a weapon invites all kinds of potential legal problems if the laww doesn't consider a knife a big enough threat to ask for a bullet.

If you are accosted by several people, that alone may constitue drawing and aiming your firearm. Again, make sure you have distance between you and your assailants and make sure not to get surrounded or attacked from behind. You don't want them to get around you, beat your ass, take your gun cause you pulled it without checking and then end up dead.

If one or more people directly assaults you for no reason with weapons (knives, guns, something that could potentially harm or kill you), I don't think anyone will blame you for drawing down, or even shooting at them in an attempt to end the conflict with yourself intact.

All situations, and the way you react to them is really touch and go. I reiterate, I am not aCCW holder, a cop, a judge or a lawyer. They will decide your fate if you end up in one of these situations or any other ones that might call for use of deadly force. Know your laws and know yourself.

k9870 · #15 12-03-2009, 02:13 PM

90% of the time a gun is used for self defense no shots are fired. Warning shots usually aren't a good idea. A mugging situation I would never do so. One of my friends had two drunk guys start kicking his door in so he fired a 12 guage round out his window and they ran off. Difference he lives in the country with no neighbors so his rounds will not hurt anyone

Excalibur · #16 12-04-2009, 04:41 AM

That little mistake I said, aside. I am planning on buying a gun for carry conceal. It's a Walther PPS. It has a very slim profile, single stack magazine with 8+1 rounds of 9mm. The magazine is a grip extension and it fits around for the hand to hold onto and feels great without making you feel like it'll fly off your hand when you pull the trigger. It's so small, you can snug it in your pants and it won't feel uncomfortable.

After handling it at my local Cabela's, I highly recommend this.

k9870 · #17 12-13-2009, 04:56 AM

I remember GM45 saying he wants to use a para p-14 frame, colt slide to make a "cara" and add his compensator on the end. Full size 1911, 15 rounds of ammo in it and a compensator...........and he said he palns to carry it. I just hope his pants dont come down in public.

S&Wshooter · #18 12-13-2009, 05:24 AM

A little Smith and Wesson 9mm with 2 spare mags (If I'm wearing a coat) a little Smith and Wesson .38 with one reload or,if I can't comfortably fit either of those on my person, a tiny NAA .22 Magnum revolver (I got one for my Dad for his Birthday and it's suprisingly accurate)

Excalibur · #19 12-13-2009, 05:59 AM

If I am wearing a coat all the time, I'd keep a full size pistol on me. Depending on my mood like a USP in .45 or a Springfield XMD in 9mm.

Yournamehere · #20 12-13-2009, 08:11 AM

In ideal circumstances, I'd have a Browning Hi-Power in a shoulder holster with no less than two reloads. The climate is good enough here to the point where you can get away with wearing a jacket all year round except for maybe the summer. If that isn't comfortable, I'd probably go with a Glock 19 as previously stated by numerous others in a shoulder or IWB holster. I'd really have to try everything out to see what I like th emost, and right now I can't do that. I feel that a .38, while small, is underpowered with both capacity and ballistics, but it's a lot better than nothing, and has done well for some people. IMHO, you should always try and get the maximum firepower with a little more than minimum concealability.