Osama Bin Laden dead

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by MT2008

You guys know what this means, right? It means we're getting the fuck out of Afghanistan. Obama has just the excuse he needs - we took out the head of Al-Qaeda, which means they're pretty much destroyed*, so why stay in Afghanistan when finishing off Al-Qaeda was the objective all along?







*Of course, the withdrawal was inevitable anyway, and it's debatable whether Bin Laden was really in charge the last 10 years.

Mineral deposits, billions and billions of dollars worth of mineral deposits. We're not giving that up, not with the heathen Chinese right next door.

[k9870]

This is meaningful for other reasons burt, the national enemy was just killed.

Seems bin laden and 3 others were gunned down, sorry GM45, your memorial sounds awesome but they buried him....why show that asshole respect throw himin the waste bin

[Spartan198]

As much as I want to believe one of our Team 6 boys ventilated OBL's skull, things aren't really adding up when I further contemplate it.

Firstly, only one photograph of his remains is circulating the web and it's believed to be a digitized hoax (Google "Osama Bin Laden Corpse" and decide for yourself, but while an admittedly gruesome image, it looks Photoshopped to me).

And secondly, we've seen in the past how US military/federal agents love to make a show of parading captured terrorists in front of TV cameras or releasing photos of dead ones' remains into the media. But with the most wanted terrorist in US history now allegedly dead and his remains in US custody, they ever so suddenly, and with very little fanfare, give him a quiet "burial" at sea? It makes no sense. Since when does our government decline an opportunity to toot its own horn? Never that I know of. And keep in mind that our failure to immediately capture OBL has constantly been used as a joke against us by the international community. Why would they decline an opportunity to rub this back in the faces of the likes of Moscow, Tehran, and Beijing? They wouldn't, they'd want to make us look as badass and tough as possible in our rivals' eyes.

I want to believe we got him just as much as you guys do, but the course of events aren't matching up to me. With the only known photographic evidence being suspect, no known publicly-available video footage of the raid, and our only "confirmation" that he's dead coming from the mouth of the president and "sources" of various news agencies that may or may not be credible, I'm finding this whole situation a little suspect and hard to swallow.

[k9870]

I hope something's released later, it does seem weird, im guessing the admistration is afraid of offending anyone. But id gladly show video. Hell id mount cameras on the rails of the seals rifles and have vids of where every shot lands and watch bin ladens head exploding. But yeah im not a political type.

[Markost]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Firstly, only one photograph of his remains is circulating the web and it's believed to be a digitized hoax (Google "Osama Bin Laden Corpse" and decide for yourself, but while an admittedly gruesome image, it looks Photoshopped to me).

The pic REALLY looks chopped, we should wait a while for the real ones.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

As much as I want to believe one of our Team 6 boys ventilated OBL's skull, things aren't really adding up when I further contemplate it.

Firstly, only one photograph of his remains is circulating the web and it's believed to be a digitized hoax (Google "Osama Bin Laden Corpse" and decide for yourself, but while an admittedly gruesome image, it looks Photoshopped to me).

And secondly, we've seen in the past how US military/federal agents love to make a show of parading captured terrorists in front of TV cameras or releasing photos of dead ones' remains into the media. But with the most wanted terrorist in US history now allegedly dead and his remains in US custody, they ever so suddenly, and with very little fanfare, give him a quiet "burial" at sea? It makes no sense. Since when does our government decline an opportunity to toot its own horn? Never that I know of. And keep in mind that our failure to immediately capture OBL has constantly been used as a joke against us by the international community. Why would they decline an opportunity to rub this back in the faces of the likes of Moscow, Tehran, and Beijing? They wouldn't, they'd want to make us look as badass and tough as possible in our rivals' eyes.

I want to believe we got him just as much as you guys do, but the course of events aren't matching up to me. With the only known photographic evidence being suspect, no known publicly-available video footage of the raid, and our only "confirmation" that he's dead coming from the mouth of the president and "sources" of various news agencies that may or may not be credible, I'm finding this whole situation a little suspect and hard to swallow.

I think you are being a little too cynical.

As Evil Tim pointed out, it's a bad idea to publicly display Bin Laden's body if he has followers who will just see him as a martyr. This isn't a case of the Obama administration being "respectful" of Islamic tradition due to their liberal naivety; there are historic precedents where the same decision was made.

That being said, I'd expect the horn-tooting to commence sooner rather than later. Obama's address last night was full of swag and confidence that I've almost never heard in any speech he's given related to the War on Terror. I can already tell that he's going to milk this victory for all it's worth (because let's face it - he needed this, badly, to have a chance in 2012).

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by MT2008

You guys know what this means, right? It means we're getting the fuck out of Afghanistan. Obama has just the excuse he needs - we took out the head of Al-Qaeda, which means they're pretty much destroyed*, so why stay in Afghanistan when finishing off Al-Qaeda was the objective all along?

*Of course, the withdrawal was inevitable anyway, and it's debatable whether Bin Laden was really in charge the last 10 years.

Al Qaeda is still around, and some other asshole will surely replace Osama.


I hope that there will not be an attack because of this. And if there is, I hope the don't hit somewhere important like Texas City

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

Al Qaeda is still around, and some other asshole will surely replace Osama.


I hope that there will not be an attack because of this. And if there is, I hope the don't hit somewhere important like Texas City

He's been replaced numerous times. Al Zawahiri comes to mind.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

He's been replaced numerous times. Al Zawahiri comes to mind.

Yes, but UBL was THE poster boy of the entire Extremist Jihadist movement. Nobody was walking around with T-shirts of Al Zarahiri, but Bin Laden was a legitimate CELEBRITY amongst the Islamic backwaters.

[Swordfish941]

We have finally caught Osama Bun Laden. Now he's finally in hell, sweating his ass off with his poker buddies, Saddam Hussein and Satan.

I'm justing posting my two cents. I am not going into any further discussion. But here I will personally tell Burt him why nobody likes him: