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Old 12-02-2009, 12:31 AM
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The one thing I can maybe say in defense of "Red Dawn" is that it's based on a scenario that was actually considered by military and civilian NSC advisers where the commies might invade through Mexico. But that was back in the day when half of Latin America was commie and Mexico itself was actually teetering on failed state status (and despite what some people say now, the chaos created by drug cartels won't de-stabilize Mexico quite that much). Nowadays, an invasion from Latin America would be MUCH harder, even with the new generation of far-left tyrants like Chavez and Morales in power.

As I've said, it'll be interesting to see how the screenwriters for "Red Dawn" 2010 devise their own Sino-Russo invasion. But whatever explanation they come up with, I guarantee you it's something that would be impossible in real life.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:36 AM
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And we can't just say "it's hollywood." That's just an excuse not to think. Audiences are mostly intelligent people that like entertaining materials
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:48 AM
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And we can't just say "it's hollywood." That's just an excuse not to think. Audiences are mostly intelligent people that like entertaining materials
If I thought too hard, I wouldn't be able to enjoy any movies or TV shows or video games, ever.

But the only reason I dwell on "Red Dawn"'s lack of realism is because I'm kinda disturbed how many people (particularly conservatives) actually take it seriously. It's embarrassing.
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:51 AM
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Well we cant think TOO hard, just not be naive and be blow away by everything. You can enjoy the movie, but if something stupid shows up, you have to be a critic sometimes.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:30 AM
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But the only reason I dwell on "Red Dawn"'s lack of realism is because I'm kinda disturbed how many people (particularly conservatives) actually take it seriously. It's embarrassing.
Even if it's unrealistic I still agree with the principle of the average civilian being armed against oppression. But I agree that Red Dawn may be an extreme example.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:50 AM
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I think gun ownership is a right, too, though I'm a bit wary of whether that by itself does much about oppression.

I know for sure that it has nothing to do with the Soviets and Chicoms not invading.
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:19 AM
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The right to bear arms has been around at the birth of this country and instances in other cultures before.
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