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Old 11-21-2009, 06:03 PM
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Actually the AA-12 is currently leading on the list of shotguns I'm considering for that part. Both characters have backgrounds in covert ops and have the connections within the DoD to get pretty much anything they want.

The AA-12 may more or less fall under the mall ninja category, but the thing is still scary as fuck...
You consider weapons for "parts"? Seems kind of superfluous to me. Personally, when I write screenplays (I've written a few), I tend to think about the story, the characters, and the way I convey the mood of a particular scene. I'm pretty sure most screenwriters do, since those kinds of things matter a lot more than the guns.

Also, why the AA-12 and not the USAS-12?
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You consider weapons for "parts"? Seems kind of superfluous to me. Personally, when I write screenplays (I've written a few), I tend to think about the story, the characters, and the way I convey the mood of a particular scene. I'm pretty sure most screenwriters do, since those kinds of things matter a lot more than the guns.
I plan a story out on a scene-by-scene basis and write them largely in the order they happen. Of course, I have a basic end result that drives it, but I improve a lot of happenings between beginning and end.

As far as arming characters, I use a combination of what I personally like and what I think suits his/her personality. I try to make the guns part of the character instead of just a tool of the character.

The two characters from this scene as an example:

Church, the shotgun-wielding ex-Special Forces soldier, is more direct and to the point of things. He's concerned more with just getting the job done than how he gets it done. If he wants to knock somebody out, he's gonna grab said person by the collar, throw him against the wall, and plant a fist in his face. So he uses a 1911 (currently a Desert Warrior, but I may change it) as his preferred carry.

His partner Alexis (the main protagonist that the plot centers around), by contrast, is more stylistic. A sort of Sam Fisher-like special agent previous to the story events (I left her past largely blank to emphasize how secret the agency she worked for is), she definitely has the skills to get the job done, but she puts extra effort into looking cool while doing so. If she wants to knock someone out, she'll do it with some fancy Solid Snake-esque "CQC" move. Taking into account her "tactical personality" as well as her flare for the dramatic, I've chosen as her standard everyday carry a USP-45 CT, while her "combat carry" (pistol-wise) is two full size USP-45 Tacticals. In effect, she's more "tacticool" and mall ninja-esque, but still more than capable of backing up her words.

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Also, why the AA-12 and not the USAS-12?
The USAS-12 is semi-auto only, isn't it? I want the AA-12 for its full-auto capability and the awesome amount of firepower it's capable of putting out at a moment's notice.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:19 PM
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The USAS-12 is semi-auto only, isn't it? I want the AA-12 for its full-auto capability and the awesome amount of firepower it's capable of putting out at a moment's notice.
No, the USAS-12 is made in both select-fire and semi-auto versions. The semi version was for civilian sales only.

Plus, the AA-12 is friggin' ugly, while the USAS-12 looks kinda cool (I was just watching an episode of "The Sentinel" where some bank robbers use one).
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Both the AA-12 and the USAS-12 are the same in terms of ugliness. The AA-12 at least loses some of the extra things like a carrying handle and looks a bit more streamline
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I´d use this one for a normal action movie (USAS-12):




Nice gun, but is not available anymore in Usa, except those pre-ban and limited post-ban made in Usa.


... and this for a futuristic movie (AA-12):
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Well, this story is set in modern day.
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I´d use this one for a normal action movie (USAS-12):

Nice gun, but is not available anymore in Usa, except those pre-ban and limited post-ban made in Usa.

... and this for a futuristic movie (AA-12):
It's weird that you say that, because the AA-12 is the older design of the two! The USAS-12 looks more modern and high-tech, IMO.

Also, USAS-12 is apparently still made for LEO sales.

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Both the AA-12 and the USAS-12 are the same in terms of ugliness. The AA-12 at least loses some of the extra things like a carrying handle and looks a bit more streamline
I think carry handles look cool, but that's just me.
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To me, the AA-12 looks like one solid piece of equipment while the USAS-12 looks like you can break it by accident if you smack the receiver against something
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I think carry handles look cool, but that's just me.
The USAS looks more like an assault rifle and the AA like a big submachinegun, being more lighter and simpler than the Usas. That´s why i said the "futuristic" style, but well, that´s my point of view...

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