Weapons in the Red Dawn Remake

[AdAstra2009]

Interesting thing is that just across the Detroit River there, they would have been able to acquire Type 97's.

[Excalibur]

Well too bad that the Canadian armorer can't just cross the border with their 97s

[Markit]

For all the things that Hollywood hasn't tried to emulate in terms of how the Chinese are equipped, at least their uniforms (with the exception of the older-style helmets) are fairly accurate:

Movie:


Real:

[k9870]

I though armorers could get post 86 weapons, or convert gns like the hk94 to full auto. I see mp7s umps glock 18s and stuff in modern movies.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by k9870

I though armorers could get post 86 weapons, or convert gns like the hk94 to full auto. I see mp7s umps glock 18s and stuff in modern movies.

Where in this thread did anyone ever say otherwise? American armorers can get post 86 dealer samples or build them themselves if they are a Title II manufacturer. But the U.S. govt. put the kebosh on importation of even sample CHINESE weapons. capice?

[k9870]

So the problem is the weapons are chicom, not that they're post 86?

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by k9870

So the problem is the weapons are chicom, not that they're post 86?

The problem is Norinco the company, and the fact that they got on the bad side of the U.S. government. In the mid-90s, several high-ranking members of Norinco attempted to sell 2,000 Type 56 AK rifles (fully automatic rifles, at that) to undercover Customs agents, with intent to arm street gangs in California. Then, during the early years of the Bush administration, Norinco defied sanctions on Iran by selling them missile technology, so Bush, Jr. clamped down upon their remaining business dealings in this country. As a result, nobody in the U.S. is allowed to import firearms from Norinco anymore.

Of course, since Norinco holds the state monopoly on arms production in China, a ban on all Norinco weapons = ban on all Chicom weapons. But again, the fact that the guns are Chinese is not the problem by itself. After all, Chinese-made weapons were heavily imported into the U.S. during the 80s (as you've no doubt realized by the fact that almost all of the AKs in American action movies are Chinese Type 56s).

[Orca1_9904]

Originally Posted by Markit

For all the things that Hollywood hasn't tried to emulate in terms of how the Chinese are equipped, at least their uniforms (with the exception of the older-style helmets) are fairly accurate:

Movie:


Real:

I wasn't aware the Chinese had pixelized camo now, I thought they used a camo pattern that resembled a bleached-out version of our old Woodland camo pattern, as seen in Battlefield 2 (which is circa 2005).

[Orca1_9904]

Here's an example of the camo used by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) in Battlefield 2, compared to the above pics:

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Orca1_9904

Here's an example of the camo used by the People's Liberation Army (PLA) in Battlefield 2, compared to the above pics:

I would guess they adopted the digital pattern after "Battlefield 2" came out. After all, it was only in 2004-05 that our Army adopted the ACU, and whatever we do, the rest of the world follows later. Maybe the date that the PLA adopted the new pattern is on Sino Defence.com somewhere.

Originally Posted by Excalibur

I still think the director most likely doesn't care as long as they are using a weapon that best represent Communism and what better weapon than an AK, but it would have been better if they somehow managed to squeeze in QBZs or try to mock some up

It's not so much that the director "cares", but MPM has said that directors usually have the final say on the weapons choices. Since directors don't know or care much about guns, they're likely to pick what they've seen in other movies and TV shows, or what they think the characters should have.