Weapons in the Red Dawn Remake

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Markit

IIRC, there are no actual T-72s or BMPs available from movie prop companies in the United States (though there are in Europe). Army Trucks Inc, which is one of the most popular vehicle rental companies for big-budget hollywood movies, does have T-55 tanks though.

Hmmm, are you sure there are no T-72s over here? I always thought that the one in "Three Kings" was real, and that movie was filmed in the U.S.

And yes, I know about Army Trucks, Inc., but they aren't the only military vehicle rental company in the U.S. (though clearly, they are working on this new version of "Red Dawn", since those M1s we see are their mocked-up Centurions.)

[Markit]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Hmmm, are you sure there are no T-72s over here? I always thought that the one in "Three Kings" was real, and that movie was filmed in the U.S.

And yes, I know about Army Trucks, Inc., but they aren't the only military vehicle rental company in the U.S. (though clearly, they are working on this new version of "Red Dawn", since those M1s we see are their mocked-up Centurions.)

I'd say the T-72 was a fake, since it is narrower than the real vehicle, taller, has a shorter cannon and the position of the smoke dischargers is wrong. Also, Army Trucks Inc was responsible for the vehicles in that film so it is likely that it was another tank that was modified to resemble a T-72. The only U.S-filmed movie that I can think of that has a genuine T-72 is Transformers, during the scene where Captain Lennox's team is ambushed by Scorponok in the desert, and in that case the tank was wrecked.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by Markit

and in that case the tank was wrecked.

Hey, it was still a real T-72, though.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Markit

I'd say the T-72 was a fake, since it is narrower than the real vehicle, taller, has a shorter cannon and the position of the smoke dischargers is wrong. Also, Army Trucks Inc was responsible for the vehicles in that film so it is likely that it was another tank that was modified to resemble a T-72. The only U.S-filmed movie that I can think of that has a genuine T-72 is Transformers, during the scene where Captain Lennox's team is ambushed by Scorponok in the desert, and in that case the tank was wrecked.

Hmmm, IMCDB has it down as a real T-72, but I guess you might be right. Still, considering that surplus T-72s can be purchased for as little as $100,000 from Ukraine or other Eastern Bloc countries, I'd be rather surprised that the rental companies didn't acquire any.

[Excalibur]

I just recently saw Red Dawn. Suspending the impossibility of a Russian invasion without nuking Russia into the next century, it was pretty good. The iconic scene, "Wolverines" was awesome.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Hmmm, IMCDB has it down as a real T-72, but I guess you might be right. Still, considering that surplus T-72s can be purchased for as little as $100,000 from Ukraine or other Eastern Bloc countries, I'd be rather surprised that the rental companies didn't acquire any.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits Americans from acquiring any military vehicle made after 1968. Anything made after 1968 must be built from other 'grandfathered' vehicles. The only exemption is a museum which had approval from the DOD and ATF. No one in the U.S. will get a T-72 in a rental capacity. The only guy I know who had one, had it in his museum, which he jumped through many hoops to get 'approval' for

[Excalibur]

Why would they title a law call the Gun Control Act and include military vehicles?

[Mandolin]

Military vehicles have guns. Big guns. Big guns, automatic guns and armor. It scares the liberals to think of anyone being able to drive one around

[Excalibur]

Does a HUMVEE count as a military vehicle? I mean, I get tanks, AFVs, etc but there are plenty of vehicles used by the military with guns attached to them. Take away the guns and you just got a big car.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits Americans from acquiring any military vehicle made after 1968. Anything made after 1968 must be built from other 'grandfathered' vehicles. The only exemption is a museum which had approval from the DOD and ATF. No one in the U.S. will get a T-72 in a rental capacity. The only guy I know who had one, had it in his museum, which he jumped through many hoops to get 'approval' for

Interesting, I did not know this. But then how did Army Trucks, Inc. get its T-55s? Were they imported before 1968? (that seems kind of hard to imagine)

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

The Humvee is regarded as a TRUCK. Not a gun platform. It's like a JEEP. It's all about what the Government regards as a 'threat to the stability of the public' .... as if gang bangers would buy, restore and use a T-72.

Even then...it's important to keep in mind that some of the "military" Humvees seen in movies are actually civilian H1s which have been made to look like HMMVs.