Picked up an oooold S&W yesterday. NYLES would appreciate it.

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by Nyles

Hey, that's awesome! I've always been fascinated with the Heavy Duty, it's actually a really clever solution to an interesting problem. And I've always liked the old N frames in generally, my Mk.II Hand Ejector is the best-shooting revolver I own.

Good to hear from you Nyles. How are things in Central Asia?

Yeah the N frame Smiths are great revolvers. I used to own a 586 and a 686. Great revolvers and they weighed about the same as my Highway Patrolmen, but when firing .357 magnum loads the 28's just soaked up the recoil to higher degree then the L frames.

My father is a retired Idaho State Trooper. ISP switched to the Smith & Wesson 4586 semi-auto (45acp) in 1991. Before then they carried the Model 65 .357 magnum. However ISP carried the Winchester +P+ 38 special 125 grain semi-jacketed hollow point load in the magnums.

Basically it was a political decision going back to the 70's when cops were taking heat for carrying the "inhumane" .357 magnum load. So they started carrying the old 38/44 High Velocity load but just gave it the +P+ moniker. Also known as the Treasury Load. They found a solution for a stupid problem from the past. The +P+ load leaves the barrel at almost 1,200 fps. It has a striking energy of almost 430 foot pounds. It isn't a joke.

Anyway the cops could then truthfully say they were only carrying 38 special loads.

I have a couple hundred of those +P+ rounds. Absolutely do not want to shoot those out of anything except a .357 magnum revolver or a Heavy Duty/Outdoorsman in good shape.

Once again good hearing from you.