Favourite War Film/Tv series

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

At least Micheal Bay knows how to adequately exploit the military in his movies

True, and seeing the military fighting the Decepticons was pretty much the only good thing about the "Transformers" movies.

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Yeah, I liked them too. Like MT said, it's a real shame the military didn't get more screen time. But at least human weapons put a couple of those SOB Tripods into the dirt this time around, unlike the original where we were totally pwned the whole movie through. And the scene at the end when those 82nd troopers (at least I think they were supposed to be 82nd) were blowing the shit out of that dying Tripod with Javelins and Gustavs was one of the coolest ever.

Yeah, but come on. The Army and Marines loaned Spielberg Abrams tanks, Paladin howitzers, and LAV-25s, plus their crews. How does he use them? They're in one scene where they drive by in a convoy, and another where they're all lined up on a hill and then charge across (and we don't even get to see them shooting at the tripods). If the DoD gave me that much hardware, I would make extensive use of it, the way that Bay did in "Transformers 2". Showing soldiers firing Javelins just doesn't equate with what could have been.

[Excalibur]

Unfortunately, the story theme of War of the World didn't even justify the loan from the military. It was supposed to be the perspective of Tom Cruise and his family. They could have not even used the military at all or even called them for loans.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Yeah, but come on. The Army and Marines loaned Spielberg Abrams tanks, Paladin howitzers, and LAV-25s, plus their crews. How does he use them? They're in one scene where they drive by in a convoy, and another where they're all lined up on a hill and then charge across (and we don't even get to see them shooting at the tripods). If the DoD gave me that much hardware, I would make extensive use of it, the way that Bay did in "Transformers 2". Showing soldiers firing Javelins just doesn't equate with what could have been.

Actually, it did show the Marines firing, just the Tripods were "hidden" in a giant cloud of smoke or whatever.

Yes, there could have been more, but what was in there was still pretty cool, though.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Actually, it did show the Marines firing, just the Tripods were "hidden" in a giant cloud of smoke or whatever.

Yes, there could have been more, but what was in there was still pretty cool, though.

You saw the Marines firing rifles, AT4s, and the M2s mounted on the vehicles. What I wanted to see was an M1 Abrams fire its main gun at the tripods...and see the tripods get hit. That's what was lacking, and it's what Spielberg should have had if he was going to go to all the trouble to get DoD cooperation (and remember that "War of the Worlds" was the very first movie to feature real M1 Abrams tanks).

[Ace Oliveira]

I hate the lack of good Vietnam War films. The only ones i liked were Hamburger Hill, We Were Soldiers and Full Metal Jacket which i think is the best Nam movie i've ever seen.

I also hate the lack of Vietnam War movies from the ARVN perspective. There could be so many battle scenes and story in the movie it would probably win an Oscar or something.

And yes, Generation Kill was great. Probably the best Iraq War television series i have ever seen. The atitude of the marines is exactly the same i read about in books.

[Excalibur]

Platoon was a good Vietnam movie.

[Ace Oliveira]

I didn't like it. Adagio For Springs and the silly script and ridiculous accents made me hate it. I still watch almost every day because it's so silly and cheesy it is funny.

[predator20]

Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira

I didn't like it. Adagio For Springs and the silly script and ridiculous accents made me hate it. I still watch almost every day because it's so silly and cheesy it is funny.

Stone wanted the different accents, since everyone in the platoon were from all over. I'm not sure what DVD you have, mine has two DVD commentaries. One by Oliver Stone, the other by Dale Dye who played Capt. Harris in the film. Dye was also the technical advisor for the film. If you listen to both of them you can see why that didn't do the commentary track together, they disagreed on things. The attempted rape (which Stone said he stopped in real life), smoking dope in the bush, etc. Not sure what you find silly about the film?

[MT2008]

I don't think "Platoon" was perfect, but it does have a lot of good qualities. Stone may be a Castro-worshiping moron, but "Platoon" is good filmmaking no matter who's done it.

Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira

I hate the lack of good Vietnam War films. The only ones i liked were Hamburger Hill, We Were Soldiers and Full Metal Jacket which i think is the best Nam movie i've ever seen.

I also hate the lack of Vietnam War movies from the ARVN perspective. There could be so many battle scenes and story in the movie it would probably win an Oscar or something.

Do you mean the NVA/VC perspective? I'm not sure what good an ARVN-perspective movie would be; it would mostly be about the ARVN draftees trying to figure out how to desert, I imagine.

As for the lack of good Vietnam films, I'm not sure there are very many that can be made. It's not a conflict that lends itself to the kinds of stories that Hollywood tells best.

[Ace Oliveira]

Well, a ARVN Officer perspective would be really interisting. Specially one that takes place in the 1970s.