Films with realistic depiction's of firefights and shoot-outs

Realistic shootouts are pretty much mandatory in war films. Just look Saving Private Ryan or Letters from Iwo Jima.

Personally I don't care if a shootout is realistic or over the top I just want it to be well done.

[AlkoTanko]

I'd recommend the severely underrated Way of the Gun for both realistic-looking (at least for the eye of common viewer) and exciting shootouts, with director Christopher McQuarrie's brother, a former Navy SEAL, choreographing them.

[phalyn]

Didnt Arnold get some sort of praise for his realistic handling of weapons in Terminator? I thought I heard something about that somewhere.

Another movie that kind of stands out, but almost instantly loses my praise is Death Sentence.

I praise the movie for actually depicting Kevin Bacon, as not knowing how to use a gun at all, to the point that he reads the Owner Manuals. (which is a little odd, because its supposed to be part of the Death Wish series, and Brosnans character knew his guns.) So he goes from not even knowing how to open the chamber on his revolver, to being ok with them.

But then the film made me groan, when he uses a double barrel shotgun, and you can hear the sound guys have given the weapon a 'cocking' sound when he turns a corner or two, much, very much like the sound a pump action has in movies. Nitpicking? yes, but thats what I do.

The other movie that really messes it up, and I think its mainly due to bad editing, is Hellboy. His revolver, the Samaritan, is known for being a 4 shot gun. but in one of the shootouts you hear him fire the gun six times, then reloads. Probably just bad editing, but still.

[Gunmaster45]

Eight times actually. He fires six at the Samielle creature, and holsters it. He then fires two more when its tongue wraps around his arm. THEN he reloads. But there are no empty shell casings in the gun when he does.

Perhaps someone caught this goof because in the second film his gun DOES eject shells, but has no ejector so the shells flying out are CGI.

He also fires more than five shots at a time from the gun in that scene, even though it is still a four shot.

Look at the pages I made on the site, it covers all that.

And I believe it was Guns & Ammo or some other magazine that thought Arnie's gun handling was good in the Terminator, though it didn't impress me much.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45

And I believe it was Guns & Ammo or some other magazine that thought Arnie's gun handling was good in the Terminator, though it didn't impress me much.

It was "Soldier of Fortune" that complimented him. I'm assuming they were referring only to the scene where he's in the gun store picking out the weapons and then trying them out. If they'd seen the rest of the movie (i.e. firing an AR-18 and SPAS-12 akimbo in the police station), I can't imagine they would have said anything so ridiculous.

[Gunmaster45]

One movie I don't recommend is The Marine, I just bought that to screencap for the site, and it is ridiculously unreal. Apparently you can stop a hail of Uzi and CAR-15 fire by simply holding a bullet proof vest up with ONE HAND! Insanely dumb.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by MT2008

It was "Soldier of Fortune" that complimented him. I'm assuming they were referring only to the scene where he's in the gun store picking out the weapons and then trying them out. If they'd seen the rest of the movie (i.e. firing an AR-18 and SPAS-12 akimbo in the police station), I can't imagine they would have said anything so ridiculous.

Not necessarily ridiculous. SOF (from what I remember) during the interview with Cameron noted that the Terminator was holding the weapons like they weighed nothing, indicative that the Terminator was super strong and not human. Also the article mentioned that Cameron had filmed the Terminator working on his guns (i.e. parts on the table) implying that he was converting the AR-180 to full auto fire in the hotel room. The only remaining shot was a scene where the audience can see some parts on the table. There was some thought (or Cameron made up some good excuses) for the gun unrealism

[Gunmaster45]

I like to think Terminators have no felt recoil, just so the movie seems more realistic. It'd be cooler if there was a special recoil adjustment system in their wrists so they could fire guns like Glocks without them jamming, but no film writer thinks that deep into it.

I'd like to see a Terminator fire a Browning M2HB with one out stretched arm! All it would take is some wire work but man would it show how impressive they are.

[Yournamehere]

Originally Posted by phalyn

I praise the movie for actually depicting Kevin Bacon, as not knowing how to use a gun at all, to the point that he reads the Owner Manuals. (which is a little odd, because its supposed to be part of the Death Wish series, and Brosnans character knew his guns.)

It wasn't part of the Death Wish series, it was just a revenge movie loosely based on Death Wish. The guy who wrote the book and the director of the movies thought it was pretty good, and I loved it too. Guns aside though, definitely, he empties out his 1991 (and yes it is a 1991 not a 1911, whoever keeps changing that needs to stop) like it's a wondernine. Still, I love side by side double barrels, and the way he reloads his, freaking awesome.

[Gunmaster45]

I heard he fires 15 shots at a time, but I've never seen the movie.

I've heard Appaloosa is realistic but I need to watch it first.