Newbies who are WRONG.....

[Spartan198]

Oh, god, no... Last thing we need is this place flooded with HK fanboys.

[MT2008]

I do know what you mean...I've had several of my pages messed with by anonymous users who didn't know what they were talking about. What's funny is how some of them can't even read. I remember one user who changed "Heat" to say that the M16A1 was an M16A2, and he said, "That's an M16A2...check the front grip!" And this is in spite of the fact that the page specifically SAID that it was an A1 with A2 hand guards. Some people's reading comprehension just sucks...

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Oh, god, no... Last thing we need is this place flooded with HK fanboys.

They're not all bad, even though Larry Correia was right about many of them (and certainly, about H&K as a company).

[Markost]

There are some mistakes, i´m a newbie but i can fix them, but (for all the new members) don´t delete anything.

For example, in the BF Vietnam page:

Seen mounted on some jeeps.Needs Verification. There is a TOW- like weapon mounted on U.S. army jeeps, but inexplicably is called M.U.T.T.

I should have delete those lines, but i left that and put this note:

Note: The Ford M 151 MUTT is based in the Jeep, and was used to carry the TOW.

Another example (In Hellsing page):

Beretta PM12S

Seen in the hands of the Brazilian police SWAT team in OVA

plus my note:

Note: Probably a Taurus PM-12, a licensed copy of the Beretta PM12S made in Brazil.

There should be a banner in the page, intended for visitors to NOT delete anything (unless some visitor is a troll).

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MT2008

They're not all bad, even though Larry Correia was right about many of them (and certainly, about H&K as a company).

No, the legitimate fans of HK are fine. It's just the fanboys who preach and praise everything HK whether good or bad as the greatest thing on this earth no matter what are the ones I can't stand.

[Jcordell]

That is why I like to screen-cap movies with older firearms such as The Ghost and the Darkness and Crossfire Trail. I find that most fan boys aren't interested in older firearms so they stay away.

But we all make mistakes. MPM2008 corrected an error I made on The Stand when I screen-capped it. I identified a Mossberg 590 Mariner as a Winchester Model 1300 Marine. Whoops. But he stepped in and fixed it. Quietly and without being an ass about it. Gracias.

If I see something that isn't correct I always try to include some info explaining why I changed something. I'm big into firearms and I also own many many books about firearms. That helps when I make a correction.

But i have come across some "corrections" that are just amazingly moronic.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Checkman

That is why I like to screen-cap movies with older firearms such as The Ghost and the Darkness and Crossfire Trail. I find that most fan boys aren't interested in older firearms so they stay away.

But we all make mistakes. MPM2008 corrected an error I made on The Stand when I screen-capped it. I identified a Mossberg 590 Mariner as a Winchester Model 1300 Marine. Whoops. But he stepped in and fixed it. Quietly and without being an ass about it. Gracias.

If I see something that isn't correct I always try to include some info explaining why I changed something. I'm big into firearms and I also own many many books about firearms. That helps when I make a correction.

But i have come across some "corrections" that are just amazingly moronic.

I corrected your error WITHOUT rubbing your face in it? Whoops, missed that one LOL I must admit that everyone gets a little 'punchy' when we've corrected a lot of errors. At least you've seen some of the "Corrections" that 'drive by" members do that are either sloppy or misinformed.

I recently got irritated when some new unknown member changed a bunch of pages by renaming the gun, but the manufacturer didn't make that name change until a certain year, so he is wrong by renaming all the entries for that weapon before the year of the name change. Arghhhh. I can see where he 'got his information' (he looked it up on the mfg website, which of course only lists CURRENT models, not older ones).

Anyway, anyone can make ANY change to any page, but that person MUST be right. People only get mad when the change is wrong. Seriously. Anyone can correct any info I put out as long as it's correct. I've been corrected in the past and we all build on our body of knowledge by absorbing new and correct data.

[Rockwolf66]

I totally agree with you MPM. I know that you have corrected me from time to time and frankly I'd love to put my Remington M-700P next to one of your M-700PSS models so that we can visually show the differance as I know that there are some 700P entries that look funny to me.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

I've seen people adding details or 'commentary' on photos or movie pages, but the spelling is atrocious. Nothing knocks down the professionalism of a page than wretched spelling like it is done by a 7 yr old.

Well as much as i hate misleading information, and "newbies" ignorant enough to post misleading information, i dont quite see your quarrel. Should every nerd who’s experiences with weapons doesn’t stretch beyond the basics of some half life gameplay refrain from creating pages? Id say that most people interested in weapons are enthused by computer games. In particular when it comes to the younger generation. And if you are to ban all these I think that IMFDB would end up being a rather empty page. We cant all be gun veterans.

Now ive never fired an m4 and I don’t own any Glock and frankly my only actually interest in weapons is inspired by computer games. But I don’t need any personal experiences if I can refer to relevant sources with the fact I need. I thinking about rewriting the page about Counter Strike Source.
Mostly by adding rather then changing. I think we could do with some more screen caps and criticism when it comes unrealistic details. Like the AUG firing the AK ammo or the 50 cal Deagle not being able to kill an enemy in two shots.

You are right on the money, MPM. Most of the people who come onto our site "mean well", but they are relatively cocky. They "think" they know everything about guns (or at least, a great deal), but I can see why it gets to be a pain when you have to CONSTANTLY revert their edits.

That being said, I think that that's just how newbies are. They're going to be cocky starting out. Then once someone (or a few people) let them know that they are wrong (not gloating, but explaining), then they will get the hang of it. They'll start understanding more about 1) guns in general and 2) the principles of our site. Although I didn't start editing things left and right when I first came to the site, I thought I knew a lot about guns, but I learned much more after spending several months here. So I think if we just give the newbies time, they'll come around, and they'll become valuable members of our site.