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Yeah, I can name one at least in The Unit that isn't realistic. Like the episode where 4 of them went into the field with M16 rifles with 20 round magazines. I get it if one of them has one as a designated marksman rifle, but all of them?
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Glad to see that the Ultimate Force thread has been tidied up, it looks great
![]() Just wanted to add a couple of guns to the list. In the episode "The list" the terrorist operative is given a Walther P99 to use. I think it is one of the second gen ones, without the fugly as hell finger-guard. In episode 1.2 with the AW-50 & the anti-globalist protestors, the black woman uses a stainless or nickel framed IMI Jericho. In 3.1 (I think), at Ed's funeral the squaddies who fire the 21 shots are using L98A1 training rifles, not the standard issue L85A1's. You can tell this because they manually cock after each shot, which you would have to do with the semi-auto L85's. However in the other funeral they do use regular L85A1's in semi. The L98's are used by cadets and come in two versions; one kind have the gas-system removed and are therefore bolt-action rifles, used only on the range; the others have all their internals welded together so they are inoperable and are used whilst the cadets are running about so they don't slot each other. And as a last point; in the last episode of season two when Henno and the officer are fighting through the building (a couple of mins before Henno frags the officer). Henno reloads his M16, when he pulls the charging handle the extractor fails and a round jams forcing the charging handle to stick out by about four inches. I dunno if you'd want to stick a screen-cap up there of it but in the Punisher 2004 article someone pointed out all the stovepipes. |
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I didn't think of that really.
I just assumed that they phoned up their local TA branch and got them to do the scene. I don't know how likely it is that the British Army would go for that though, improper use of equipment/uniform etc. |
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Also, the L98 training rifle for cadets have a special charging handle so cadets can pull the action back easily.
http://www.freewebs.com/wednesfield-atc/90.JPG You can tell from the picture above how the charging handle makes it very noticable than that of the charging handle of the L85. The ones seen in the series don't have this and I don't think they would completely dress 4 of these rifles to look like L85 just for this one scene. Also I don't think in 1.2 "Just a Target", that was a Jericho since the only close shot I could see of the gun in the black woman's hand is too boxy shape, more of a 1911 commander variant because of the size.
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Haven't seen the show, but since military funerals are done with blanks (obviously), it would be quite correct for them to be manually cycled - that's the proper drills. BFA's aren't used for parade, they look lousy (particularly the huge ones used with the SA80) and quite frankly make the rifle shot sound like a fart.
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Not in all cases. Sometimes ARs and M1 Garands are fitted with BFAs. I've worked on a few funeral guns in this configuration.
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