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Old 07-19-2009, 03:31 AM
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Well I don't consider Glocks as being DAO, because they are on half-cock at all times, which allows a pretty good trigger pull and consistency throughout.

And I'm not picky on grip width, and while .45 double stacks are a little wide, it makes reloading easier.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:38 AM
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The single stack just fits right in my hand. Maybe a grip using polymers could be a bit thinner though. I heard the FNP-45 is quite slim for a double stack because of this. And glock triggers feel...weird. Their grip angle....who desighned that? Its seriously awful. the barrels, well, just replace them. Not to mention gatson produces them for 55 bucks and sells em for 500
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:43 AM
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Eh, it's the father of all high-capacity tupperware guns, so you gotta give it that respect.
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Sorry John,
The VP-70 came long before the Glock 17 came into existance.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:12 AM
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I don't think it would do so bad.

Look at the Kahr Arms series, their weapons are similar/simplistic to the 1911 in that they don't have rails, are fullmetal as oppose to polymer, single stack, etc -but they did pretty well considering they started up in 1995.
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Sorry John,
The VP-70 came long before the Glock 17 came into existance.
I said high-capacity polymer guns. And from what I recall, the VP-70 can't shoot underwater or operate flawlessy after being soaked in salt water for a week, cleaned, and then fired.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:14 PM
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A week in salt water will deteriorate the barrel on anything. And who cares about working underwater, a bullet travels like 6 inches in water. Also, a double stack, polymer, dao 1911 is almost inconceivable, how would you call it a 1911?

The best thing about KAHR is the 9mm pocket guns. REAL small package, and plenty of firepower, considering most guns that size are .32 and such.
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Old 07-19-2009, 09:30 PM
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I'm just saying...

Anyway, I seriously hate those little Kahr pocket guns. Sure, with a pocket clip you can carry them as easy as a cheap folding knife (which I do carry), but I can wrap three fingers on it barely, this lack of grip makes the tiny .32 have some good recoil, and without some type of laser, it's hard to shoot accurately with one. It's also only built to last about a 1000 rounds before it craps out, so don't practice too much with it.

Oh, the first one I shot also had a HORRIBLE DAO trigger that took forever to pull and completely threw off aim. My dad was asked to lighten the trigger pull, and he did, but it only made it a little better, because it still wasn't a pleasant gun to shoot. And .32 ACP isn't the best in stopping power, so buy some hollow points or throw some rocks instead.
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Hard thing to imagine, because many of the firearms today were inspired at least partially by the 1911, and contain many of the same features. Extremely hard question to answer.
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Im wondering what other guns would have as big an aftermarket/custom shop selection like the 1911 if it didnt exist.
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