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Old 08-31-2014, 04:43 PM
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So it seems California's crusade against the scary black rifle has reached its latest extreme.

Reuters: Toy weapons won't look like real ones under California bill
The title of this topic is misleading. As the article points out, airsoft guns are not banned in CA until the Governor signs the bill.

But it definitely sucks to hear that this has passed both the Senate and the State Assembly. And the fact that CA has a Democrat as Governor is never an encouraging sign. There have already been too many idiotic gun laws proposed/passed in CA in the past few years since the Sandy Hook shooting (like that stupid ammunition purchase permit law).
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Though on the plus side, California actually took out the law that mandates 10 day waiting period because...they actually admit it doesn't work.
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Though on the plus side, California actually took out the law that mandates 10 day waiting period because...they actually admit it doesn't work.
But they want you to have a C.O.E. (Certificate of Eligibility) in order to take advantage of the removal of the waiting period. Previously, COEs were mostly used by people working in firearms related jobs (armorers, clerks, Sales persons at gun stores, etc). But the rub is that the COE give the cops the authority to do NO WARNING surprise inspection of your address on the COE. If you're a private citizen, and not a gun store, your address is .... your home!

The concern is that this one certificate by law gives the cops authority to do surprise inspections of your private residence, which I think is a total violation of your 4th amendment rights.

Never count on California to do the smart thing.
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Old 09-28-2014, 01:03 PM
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But they want you to have a C.O.E. (Certificate of Eligibility) in order to take advantage of the removal of the waiting period. Previously, COEs were mostly used by people working in firearms related jobs (armorers, clerks, Sales persons at gun stores, etc). But the rub is that the COE give the cops the authority to do NO WARNING surprise inspection of your address on the COE. If you're a private citizen, and not a gun store, your address is .... your home!

The concern is that this one certificate by law gives the cops authority to do surprise inspections of your private residence, which I think is a total violation of your 4th amendment rights.

Never count on California to do the smart thing.
Well for what it's worth the vast majority of officers (that I know) up here in Idaho agree that we would not want to be cops down in California. For so many different reasons.
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Well for what it's worth the vast majority of officers (that I know) up here in Idaho agree that we would not want to be cops down in California. For so many different reasons.
The Prison Riot in "Natural Born Killers" comes to mind. Some parts of Cali are a real mess.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:38 AM
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The Prison Riot in "Natural Born Killers" comes to mind. Some parts of Cali are a real mess.
Sell it to Mexico and be done with it, for the sake of the rest of us
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