Eligibility of guns for their own pages

[funkychinaman]

I just want a clarification:

Unless the actor is actually piloting an aircraft, aircraft cannons don't count on actor pages?

[commando552]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

I just want a clarification:

Unless the actor is actually piloting an aircraft, aircraft cannons don't count on actor pages?

I wouldn't have thought they would even count then. It's not like they are actually handling the weapon, they are just pressing a button. If someone pushes a button in the CIC of a carrier you wouldn't say they were firing a Vulcan cannon. Also, I doubt that there has ever been anything where the actor portraying the pilot is actually controlling the weapon. Most of the time the cockpit shots would be filmed in a mock up or in a grounded fighter, whereas aerial shots of it firing (assuming it isn't CG) would be a professional pilot flying the plane, most likely with any firing effects added in later. Do you have an example of one that you think might be eligible?

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by commando552

I wouldn't have thought they would even count then. It's not like they are actually handling the weapon, they are just pressing a button. If someone pushes a button in the CIC of a carrier you wouldn't say they were firing a Vulcan cannon. Also, I doubt that there has ever been anything where the actor portraying the pilot is actually controlling the weapon. Most of the time the cockpit shots would be filmed in a mock up or in a grounded fighter, whereas aerial shots of it firing (assuming it isn't CG) would be a professional pilot flying the plane, most likely with any firing effects added in later. Do you have an example of one that you think might be eligible?

Not in a fighter. I just wanted to be sure.

The only exception to aircraft cannons that I can think of is if someone was loading the cannons on an AC-130.

[Evil Tim]

Yeah, and I doubt they'd let an actor do that anyway.

[funkychinaman]

I'm not really sure what context of this image is, but if it's for Lock 'n Load, then I suppose it'd be eligible.

Then again, for Mail Call and Lock 'n Load, it just says "Various weapons."

[commando552]

I'm trying to think now, has there ever actually be an internal shot of an AC-130 in TV or Film? Just wondering, as I remember when one day I was trying to work out what weapons an an AC-130 are actually aimable and crew operated I had a real hard time trying to find shots of exactly how the weapons are mounted.

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by commando552

I'm trying to think now, has there ever actually be an internal shot of an AC-130 in TV or Film? Just wondering, as I remember when one day I was trying to work out what weapons an an AC-130 are actually aimable and crew operated I had a real hard time trying to find shots of exactly how the weapons are mounted.

I can't recall any off-hand, at least none that aren't documentaries. The first Transformers had a gunship scene, but I don't know if we ever saw the inside of the plane.

If I recall, the crewmen actually riding with the weapons only load them (at least the Bofors gun and the howitzer, I imagine they'd just have a drums for the miniguns.) Someone in the cockpit aims the weapons, and the pilot pulls the trigger.