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Old 05-05-2013, 04:46 PM
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Knowing Spielberg, he's gonna do a special edit where all the guns are replaced with walkie talkies
I've seen that joke so many times its lost any of its funniness to me.
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Old 05-05-2013, 05:28 PM
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Honestly, that is the first time I've seen it in reference to anything, so I lol'ed a little bit.

Yeah, if Spielberg goes all angsty, hopefully it will be in regards to SOC Kyle and his personal life, which like most military families, had some rocky parts.
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Spielberg's justification for that was that he was disturbed that the government was willing to use guns against kids, and lest anyone forget, E.T. IS a kids movie. I'm fine with that, because...

...he's never pulled his punches in any of his war movies. Melish's death in Saving Private Ryan was one of the most disturbing death scenes in ANY war movie I've ever seen, and the Omaha beach scene set a new bar for war movies.
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I'm not so much worried about Spielberg mucking it up, but rather the higher-ups in Hollywood that will be funding it being the ones to do it.
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I'm not so much worried about Spielberg mucking it up, but rather the higher-ups in Hollywood that will be funding it being the ones to do it.
The man does run his own studio, and he's produced most of his own movies in the past decade. He also produced Flags of Our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima, for what it's worth.

He's had his misses, but I think he's a had a fairly good track record with war movies. I'm looking forward to renting Lincoln soon.
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Spielberg's justification for that was that he was disturbed that the government was willing to use guns against kids, and lest anyone forget, E.T. IS a kids movie. I'm fine with that, because...

...he's never pulled his punches in any of his war movies. Melish's death in Saving Private Ryan was one of the most disturbing death scenes in ANY war movie I've ever seen, and the Omaha beach scene set a new bar for war movies.
Well, he did do the same in Jurassic Park where at no point in any of the three movies does anyone use a firearm effectively and he kills off mean gun-user Muldoon in the first movie even though he survived in the book.
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Well, he did do the same in Jurassic Park where at no point in any of the three movies does anyone use a firearm effectively and he kills off mean gun-user Muldoon in the first movie even though he survived in the book.
Hammond and Malcolm died in the book, and lived in the movie, so that's a tradeoff. And it'd kind of take away from the suspense if you could just shoot the dinosaurs wouldn't it? Halloween and Friday the 13th would've been over in minutes if Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees couldn't shrug off bullet wounds.

(BTW, there are FIFTY titles in the Spielberg category, and 24 of them are features directed by him. That is mind-blowing.)
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Hammond and Malcolm died in the book, and lived in the movie, so that's a tradeoff. And it'd kind of take away from the suspense if you could just shoot the dinosaurs wouldn't it? Halloween and Friday the 13th would've been over in minutes if Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees couldn't shrug off bullet wounds.
Well, still, I have a feeling it was more to do with the old slasher movie belief that monsters have a secret morality-sense and only kill people who offend it, so fluffy old Richard Attenborough doesn't get it but the lawyer, the fat obnoxious guy and the guy who wants to shoot the things trying to eat them do. It does get really stupid in the second movie where a bunch of trained soldiers with automatic weapons don't even manage to bring down one raptor and then a kid kills one using the power of gymnastics.
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Well, still, I have a feeling it was more to do with the old slasher movie belief that monsters have a secret morality-sense and only kill people who offend it, so fluffy old Richard Attenborough doesn't get it but the lawyer, the fat obnoxious guy and the guy who wants to shoot the things trying to eat them do. It does get really stupid in the second movie where a bunch of trained soldiers with automatic weapons don't even manage to bring down one raptor and then a kid kills one using the power of gymnastics.
Hey, Sam Jackson got it too (or maybe he just got his arm torn off and survived) and his sin was ... chain-smoking? I'd really like to know if Hammond was scripted to die before they cast Richard Attenborough, or if they had to reshoot the ending later on so that he lived, because the film would've ended on a downer if a loveable guy like him had died. (Attenborough's very next role was Santa Klaus.)
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