The guns of Boston

[k9870]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Why?


Be thankful that the Media is not on a drumbeat to BAN whatever gun they may have used......

more to see if it was illegally aquired, who might of been supplying them, etc. If its street junk, or if its something hard to come by suggesting a larger operation

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by k9870

more to see if it was illegally aquired, who might of been supplying them, etc. If its street junk, or if its something hard to come by suggesting a larger operation

There's no doubt somebody helped them get the guns illegally, given the severity of MA's gun laws (and Boston's in particular). BATFE already has said that neither of the two brothers was licensed to own firearms and that they're looking for whoever purchased the guns for them.

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

But how did they kill that cop in the first place?

Exactly. @Excalibur: Once again, this is why you need to read (and think) before you post.

Originally Posted by SPEMack618

My guess is that it was something plain, compliant with Mass's gun laws, and not particularly dangerous looking.

It is probably a hand gun that doesn't fit the narrative of "assault weapons".

Furthermore, I reckon that since these guys had gone so long without attracting attention to themselves, and even getting interviewed by the FBI, they wouldn't attempt to purchase a weapon that would draw attention or run the risk of running afoul of Mass's firearms laws.

There was a rifle, not just handguns. Investigators have already determined that much. Also, don't you think it's ironic that you're essentially making an argument which seriously contradicts the pro-RKBA community's "criminals don't care about gun laws" argument?

Also, I was following Tweeters who were posting police radio chatter on the night of the shooting. There were officers panicking and asking if anyone nearby had a rifle. I realize that there was a lot of confusion, but the radio chatter suggests that whatever the Tsarnaev brothers fired at BPD had a lot of range and allowed them to fire a lot of rounds pretty quickly, which means that it was (A.) a rifle, and (B.) something fitted with a high-capacity magazine.

[Excalibur]

Yes I know they most likely killed the cop with an illegal gun and then stole the officer's gun.

Why is the news constantly bringing up they don't have gun permits for their guns? It seems to be the headline for a lot of articles? I can see how this can be used to fuel the anti-gun control argument but I was more surprised the media hasn't thrown out more "they used assault weapons" quotes.

I also don't think it matters anymore what guns they used, the liberal media will always target the guns used and demonize them. It could have been a Ruger 10/22 and gun owners would still get it.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

I was more surprised the media hasn't thrown out more "they used assault weapons" quotes.

The media may be (disproportionately) liberal, but contrary to what you seem to believe, their hard-on for gun control isn't so huge that they're going to make up information like that. The types of weapons used have not been reported yet, so the media has not yet reported it. Simple.

That being said, when the investigators do announce that the Tsarnaev brothers fired an assault rifle during the gun battle, I will not be surprised to see the press (and the gun controllers) dwell on it pretty heavily. But even then, I don't imagine this incident serving as a rallying cry for more gun control. (Since, unlike Newtown and Aurora, the guns were secondary to the bombing, and because those cases are far more clear-cut examples of mentally ill shooters having questionable legal access to powerful weaponry.)

[SPEMack618]

I read somewhere that niether of the two had a Massachuettes Permit to Purchase a Firearm.

Further more, Mass has a pretty strict AWB in place already, so I doubt there will be much in the way of anti-gun drum beating because of that.

However, I look for reloading supplies to be targeted.

And heck, that coincides nicely with the cry for more legislation in regards to fertilizer storage after the incident in West, Texas.

[Mr.Ice]

Here is another photo of the BPD weapons seen during the lockdown:

[http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...6599760-2.jpg]

[SPEMack618]

Originally Posted by MT2008

There was a rifle, not just handguns. Investigators have already determined that much. Also, don't you think it's ironic that you're essentially making an argument which seriously contradicts the pro-RKBA community's "criminals don't care about gun laws" argument?

I don't think it ironic at all. I believe that there is a big difference between these guys and your average thug with a Lorcin .25 stuck in his waistband.

Sidenote: I still wish that the surviving suspect would be charged as a simple common criminal though, I've always felt that the bringing of special terrorism charges when an obvious case of plain murder exsists gives these guys entirerly too much credit and fame. Also, I hope against all hope that he does NOT recieve the death penalty. No need to make a marter of him. Lock him up in Adminstrative Segregation at the Mass State Penitenary for life without parole and forget about him.

However, back to guns, I was merely surmising that if these guys planned to become American terrorists, that they wouldn't compromise thier mission by getting busted on something so mundane as a gun charge.

There is an element of racial profiling to that. An obvious American citizen with a mile long rap sheet gets busted for an illegal gun, he gets to face an overburdened criminal justice system, and unless the gun pocession was tacked on to a drug case or the like, in all likelihood, it won't be prosecuted as such.

However, a guy like the deceased suspect who had been to Russian, looks foreign, and has already been investigated by the FBI at the behest of a foreign government(my guess is the Russians) gets busted for a gun crime, red flags should go up.

Now all that being said, there is nothing to say that a straw purchase(already illegal) didn't take place, a theft(already illegal), or a person to person transfer happened, which according to my understanding of Mass law, is illegal.

And hell, going with Occam's Razor, there is nothing that would have stopped one of them form buying a rifle out of state.

Another aside, the 200 rounds exchanged, has that been confirmed as the numbers of rounds expended by the suspects?

Because I could certainly understand that a justifiably jumpy police force would expend a heap ton of lead in the general direction of the muzzle flash of a known cop killer/suspected terrorist. Especially at night.

I've been there, it just feels good when your weapon goes BANG and kicks back into your shoulder.

Also, didn't mean to brush this aside with my previous response, I overlooked your quote of mine.