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[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Mass killers are not like career criminals who have access to extensive black markets. They're ordinary, otherwise law-abiding citizens who are mentally ill. What, you think a nerdy kid like Adam Lanza had connections to big-time gun gunners who could get him a military-issue M4 more easily than he got ahold of the Bushmaster AR-15?

I don't think those people are delusional at all. I think they go too far in insisting upon banning AR-15s, but they're not wrong for recognizing that (1.) an AR-15 is a far more dangerous in the wrong hands than a bolt-action rifle, and (2.) gun control laws in the U.S. are still inadequate, at least at the federal level.

Who said anything about extensive black markets? Where I am, I can get my hands on a full-auto AKM, if I wanted, without much fuss just by talking to the right people, none of which have any links to international arms markets.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Who said anything about extensive black markets? Where I am, I can get my hands on a full-auto AKM, if I wanted, without much fuss just by talking to the right people, none of which have any links to international arms markets.

Shit, until recently there was a guy in the same area of Beaumont a large portion of my family is from that'd make you supressors, zip guns, decent quality fully automatic homemade guns and was known to convert some rifles and pistols to full auto, and it wasn't exactly hard to get in touch with him.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Who said anything about extensive black markets? Where I am, I can get my hands on a full-auto AKM, if I wanted, without much fuss just by talking to the right people, none of which have any links to international arms markets.

(1.) A conservative, squarey-Q white boy (I presume) like yourself has criminal connections? What, do you know some local Crips who would deal illegal military-spec weapons to someone like yourself? (I'm guessing that if you tried that, you'd get "capped" on suspicion of being a Fed, if they didn't just kick your ass and take your money.) You're going to have to forgive my skepticism, especially given that anyone can make a declaration on the Internet without posting proof (as you have done).

(2.) Pretending for a moment that you're not Bsing: If it didn't come from overseas, that means it's probably a full-auto conversion of a semi-auto AK clone which originated at an FFL. I'm sorry to say that if this were the case, you would be making a very good argument supporting gun control.

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

Shit, until recently there was a guy in the same area of Beaumont a large portion of my family is from that'd make you supressors, zip guns, decent quality fully automatic homemade guns and was known to convert some rifles and pistols to full auto, and it wasn't exactly hard to get in touch with him.

Same response I had for Spartan - don't you think gun controllers are going to point to this as an argument in support of more, not less, gun control? (Assuming you're telling the truth?)

[Swordfish941]

Hooray for Mash-Ups!!

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Same response I had for Spartan - don't you think gun controllers are going to point to this as an argument in support of more, not less, gun control? (Assuming you're telling the truth?)

I'm telling the truth. I said he was in the area "until recently" because he got busted a few years back

[S&Wshooter]

Cool, I just got a switchblade

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

I'm telling the truth. I said he was in the area "until recently" because he got busted a few years back

Right, but if he's converting semi-autos to full-auto, you know exactly how gun controllers will answer: Ban the semi-autos, and he won't be able to build his full-auto conversions.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Right, but if he's converting semi-autos to full-auto, you know exactly how gun controllers will answer: Ban the semi-autos, and he won't be able to build his full-auto conversions.

For a while before he went to prison, I think he was more about home-made supressors and zip guns. I'll have to go talk to one of my uncles about it, one of them would know more about what that guy was doing.

[S&Wshooter]

I'm pretty sure my father is going to try to get a few suppressors for the AR's in the near future

[Rockwolf66]

I just spent two days without power due to a winter storm.