My Gun Room Takes Shape

[funkychinaman]

Canadian gun laws are a hell of a lot looser than I ever imagined. Nicely done.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

Canadian gun laws are a hell of a lot looser than I ever imagined. Nicely done.

Don't know about any other states, but I know Commiefornia's ban on big bore rifles is due to the police being afraid we gun owners are going to start shooting their helicopters out of the sky at random.

[commando552]

Nice. What are the wall guns, Brown Bess, Springfield 1863 and a Snider-Enfield? I have to admit I was initially a bit confused about the stuff in there when you were thanking QEII, I though you were in Britain until I saw you were in Canada. Are gun safes mandatory there or is it personal choice?

[S&Wshooter]

Nice!


I'm pretty sure that I have the exact same Stack-On safe that you do.

[Nyles]

Pretty much correct! India Pattern Brown Bess, Springfield 1861 and a Snider Enfield Mk.I**. The cabinets aren't mandatory for long guns but for handguns yes. Well, thats an oversimplification but it'll do. The PTRD is legally the same as a hunting rifle. Being 7' long and 40 lbs it's not all that useful to a criminal.

[MT2008]

Congrats on both the house and the gun room, Nyles! I can't wait to see what it looks like when it's totally finished.

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Don't know about any other states, but I know Commiefornia's ban on big bore rifles is due to the police being afraid we gun owners are going to start shooting their helicopters out of the sky at random.

I just had deja vu. Don't you mention this every time we have a topic where the subject of big-bore rifles comes up? (and I think you've said elsewhere that the movie "S.W.A.T." is to blame)

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MT2008

I just had deja vu. Don't you mention this every time we have a topic where the subject of big-bore rifles comes up? (and I think you've said elsewhere that the movie "S.W.A.T." is to blame)

Probably. It's the most ridiculous reason ever to ban something. To make it even more laughable, the state had police officers on commercials lecturing about how these .50 caliber "assault rifle" rounds can punch through a car door, while conveniently leaving out the fact that even a tiny .22LR (along with a myriad of other pistol cartridges including, but not limited to, the extremely common 9mm) can do the same thing.

[funkychinaman]

Are there any recorded instances of .50 cal rifles shooting down choppers ANYWHERE? I know the CIA sent some to A-stan in the 80's to shoot down Hinds, but did it ever work? And I know insurgents had .50 cal rifles in Iraq, but I don't remember reading about any choppers being shot down by them. You have armed men with access to .50 cal rifles in A-stan, Iraq, Mexico and Colombia going against people with helicopters, and I don't recall any shootdowns. Am I missing something?

[funkychinaman]

So back to the collection: do you actually shoot the PTRD?

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

Are there any recorded instances of .50 cal rifles shooting down choppers ANYWHERE? I know the CIA sent some to A-stan in the 80's to shoot down Hinds, but did it ever work? And I know insurgents had .50 cal rifles in Iraq, but I don't remember reading about any choppers being shot down by them. You have armed men with access to .50 cal rifles in A-stan, Iraq, Mexico and Colombia going against people with helicopters, and I don't recall any shootdowns. Am I missing something?

No recorded shoot downs that I know of. A civilian or police helicopter isn't going to be very tolerant of holes being poked in it regardless of the caliber, but I find it doubtful that one could have an easy time downing a flying tank like a Hind or Apache with a 50. I don't know about the former's armor rating, but I know the fuselage of the latter can withstand a hit from a projectile up to 23mm.