Pistons dont get dirty <---------- LOL

[Phoenixent]

Originally Posted by jdun

I don't have the link it was a white paper on the M16 published on carbon paper in the 80's.

I will look through my paperwork to see if I can verify those figures. But in the 70's and 80' the M16 still had a lot of issues.

Originally Posted by jdun

If you don't lube your weapon any weapon it won't function. That's a fact. You might get lucky and work without lube like Big Bore stated but would your risk your life on it? No run your weapon wet.

Lube you weapon is what you are supposed to do. Not drowned it in CLP.

Originally Posted by jdun

All piston AR and rifle that design similar to it has one big problem. Piston binding. The piston jam on the gas tube. Once that happen it's over because there is only one way to clear the malfunction and if that doesn't work you have to do a complete disassemble. Collapsed the stock slam it on the ground as hard and fast as possible and hope the piston unbind itself.

Unless it is a oversize gas tube like the AK the risk of piston binding are high.

Of course there will be less fouling on the bolt in a piston rifle because the gas is hitting the piston. The fouling will in the piston and gas tube as I pointed out many times. The fouling will be the same but in different location between DI and piston rifles. The fouling does not magically disappear on a piston rifle it just deposit at a different place.

I have had more gas tubes turn into a piece of spaghetti on a AR than pistons binding in AR180,AK, and FAL while firing.

Originally Posted by jdun

HK416 in suppress mode jamming.
http://rpginn.com/index.php?option=c...=443&Itemid=39

Watched the video and seen the jam it could have been anything as they were more concerned with the GemTec.

[k9870]

M16 DI with one malfunction for every 4000+ rounds fired.

What does it consider a malfunction? It sure jams more than that. And as far as AKs though ive seen AKs shoot a ton of cheapo wolf, with little oil and barely any cleaning other than an occasional boresnake. Also seen stock m16a2s start jamming once they were switched to 3 round burst. My friends military issue m16a3 manual says to expect a Jam every 90-120 rounds, so learning to clear a jam properly is of utmost importance. DI guns heat up real easy too. And I take things on AR-15.com with a little skepticism, I mean, seriously, If an article about FALs came from a site called FAL.com, wouldn't you think theres just a little bias.?

[Phoenixent]

Originally Posted by k9870

What does it consider a malfunction? It sure jams more than that. And as far as AKs though ive seen AKs shoot a ton of cheapo wolf, with little oil and barely any cleaning other than an occasional boresnake. Also seen stock m16a2s start jamming once they were switched to 3 round burst. My friends military issue m16a3 manual says to expect a Jam every 90-120 rounds, so learning to clear a jam properly is of utmost importance. DI guns heat up real easy too. And I take things on AR-15.com with a little skepticism, I mean, seriously, If an article about FALs came from a site called FAL.com, wouldn't you think theres just a little bias.?

I can't wait to see the next post or thread by jdun. It will be the same thing just worded differently that's all.

The M16 is over 50 years old for some it and the AK are the only weapons they have experienced during their life. That is how you have sites like AR15.com or AK.com and heaven forbid you go there and say anything they don't agree with you will be banded automatically.