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Old 10-07-2011, 10:50 PM
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There are some exceptions on this page It just seems that a lot of people who make these video game IMFDB pages can't get it through their head that the video game designers are able to just make up a gun and draw it on the computer. No, they think that it HAS to be a real gun.
They look at the fake video game gun and instead of realizing it is a make believe gun they look for the real life gun that it looks most like and declare that it is so and so gun.
Typically fictional gun designs aren't entirely make believe, though. Graphic designers will generally work from reference images, airsoft guns or real weapons to get a sense of authenticity. Now, in Perfect Dark the guns are so "Elmer Fudd" that it's like arguing over the shape of a cloud, but in more modern games the influences are often obvious enough to call. For example, that shotgun in Human Revolution is either based heavily on the SRM Arms weapon or a designer managed to make up a gun that looked exactly like it. The others, the resemblance is worth pointing out as long as you say it's a "fictional weapon with features of weapon X" rather than "this is weapon X." FEAR 2 is typically used as the standard for such things.

I'd differentiate between that and really made-up guns (eg the laser and plasma cannon which are *not* on the Human Revolution page). Also, Human Revolution has some actual, real guns in it which could be screencapped (mostly on magazine covers in the game world).

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Old 10-07-2011, 11:01 PM
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Typically fictional gun designs aren't entirely make believe, though. Graphic designers will generally work from reference images, airsoft guns or real weapons to get a sense of authenticity. Now, in Perfect Dark the guns are so "Elmer Fudd" that it's like arguing over the shape of a cloud, but in more modern games the influences are often obvious enough to call. For example, that shotgun in Human Revolution is either based heavily on the SRM Arms weapon or a designer managed to make up a gun that looked exactly like it. The others, the resemblance is worth pointing out as long as you say it's a "fictional weapon with features of weapon X" rather than "this is weapon X." FEAR 2 is typically used as the standard for such things.

I'd differentiate between that and really made-up guns (eg the laser and plasma cannon which are *not* on the Human Revolution page). Also, Human Revolution has some actual, real guns in it which could be screencapped (mostly on magazine covers in the game world).
Which is why I only deleted the SMG and the handgun because they don't look close enough to the real thing. Oh yeah, they look KINDA like the real thing with bits of other things, but they don't look enough like the real thing. The handgun looks nothing like any 1911 variant to me and saying it has P99 characteristics already ends the discussion for me.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:18 AM
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Yeah, with the handgun it was already there as something it looked even less like (I forget what) and I just changed the description to say it was a fake weapon which looked rather like the idea was "futuristic M1911." Hence just using an picture of an original M1911 rather than any specific version. If that read as "this is an M1911" then mea culpa, that certainly wasn't the idea.
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