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Old 05-29-2009, 10:23 PM
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In the first terminator they had lazers and G3s. The new one 556, which is shown just bouncing off. A full sized gun as a BUG or held in ankle holsters seems stupid. A DEAG used by cops or military? Stupid. Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted. A tactical 500 mag? Okay punisher...
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:33 PM
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In the first terminator they had lazers and G3s. The new one 556, which is shown just bouncing off. A full sized gun as a BUG or held in ankle holsters seems stupid. A DEAG used by cops or military? Stupid. Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted. A tactical 500 mag? Okay punisher...
All comes back to my point - no stupid guns, just STUPID USES FOR GUNS...

Besides, I wouldn't mind owning a couple of the Desert Eagles I've ever seen in movies (Predator 2 comes to mind...).

As for Terminator Salvation, a few things. One, the movie's set in 2018. Therefore, the assumption can be made that the plasma weapons and all that jazz hadn't quite been perfected yet. Two, AP rounds come in 5.56mm too. The movie may have did a poor job depicting that, but if I were John Connor, I'd have so much armor-piercing ordanance on me that my boots could have punched through 1/4 inch steel plates. Three, the Terminator he shot was significantly weakened (and rightfully so, considering it looks like he was a victim of a few strafes from one of those A-10s). You pound away at something long enough, and eventually you'll break through it...as was evidenced by the T-600 that attacked him after the base self-destructed. He needed about 30 rounds from a door-mounted M60 to drop THAT one (oh, by the way, there's your 7.62x51mm right there).
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:59 AM
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Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted.
Well, Callahan's gun had been stolen by the killer, so he needed a weapon fast. The powerful harpoon was handy so he grabbed it and killed the guy with it. If he had fired it from the mount it was on, he likely would have missed (they showed the harpoon was very inaccurate at the start of the film). So while it isn't the most tactically efficient weapon, it did what it needed to at the time. "You're out of bullets... and you know what that means? You're shit out of luck." Good stuff.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:07 AM
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Wondering about the recoil on that though.....it can launch a whale killing projectile, im guessing it hurts on both ends.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:10 AM
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I've shot a hand held harpoon before used for killing porpoise sized animals, and it was pretty stout. I'm sure that harpoon had some kick, but Dirty Harry is a Magnum kind of guy, he can handle it.
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I don't think the Desert Eagle's that stupid a gun for the movies. It may be an over-priced penis substitute with no practical value in real life, but in movies, it has character and screen presence that almost no other handgun has. As much as some people laugh at "The Matrix" films for featuring the Eagle, it's actually a perfect weapon for the Agents when you consider that the characters are supposed to be menacing, so they need to have wicked-looking handguns.

And Clutch raises an extremely good point - there are no stupid guns, just stupid directors who don't know how to use the guns' appearance on screen for maximum effect. How the actor is directed to use the gun on camera makes the difference. For instance, watching a movie like "Point Break" makes me want to grab my SIG P226 from its holster and pretend I'm Keanu Reeves, whereas if I watch a crappy film like "Maximum Risk" (which also features the P226), I don't get nearly the same feeling of excitement.

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Why would anyone wan't to pretend they're Keanu Reeves?
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:03 AM
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Why would anyone wan't to pretend they're Keanu Reeves?
Come on, the scene from "Point Break" where he dumps a whole magazine from his P226 into the air was clearly worthy of an Oscar! An IMFDB Oscar, that is...
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I don't think the Desert Eagle's that stupid a gun for the movies. It may be an over-priced penis substitute with no practical value in real life, but in movies, it has character and screen presence that almost no other handgun has. As much as some people laugh at "The Matrix" films for featuring the Eagle, it's actually a perfect weapon for the Agents when you consider that the characters are supposed to be menacing, so they need to have wicked-looking handguns.
Overall, the Eagle works amazingly well in The Matrix. Not only does it look small because the agents are all actually big guys (Hugo Weaving is a solid 6'3") but it also fits the bill as to what they are all about. The agents are not necessarily about finesse when it comes right down to it.

And, interestingly enough, the film only puts the Eagle in the hands of the agents, despite the fact that the heroes have access to any gun ever for their raid. They choose more reliable hardware across the board.
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Well behind the scenes explain that they wanted the Agent guns to be the most badass of the time and what better example of power in a handgun than a Desert Eagle
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