Profanity in movie quotes

[Evil Tim]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

REMOVE ALL the quotes on the individual movie pages.

Oh come on, there's no point having a Dirty Harry page if you can't put That Quote under That Image. As the saying goes, "everything in moderation." I'd agree that excessive quoting or using images just to swear under them is a bad thing, but I don't think that's particularly common and it can easily be discouraged.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Evil Tim

...excessive quoting or using images just to swear under them is a bad thing...

I see it a bit. Just putting in 'cool scenes' with lots of attitude from a film just to quote the "F*** you!' comedic phrase, does not belong on the movie page. Does it help identify the gun? No. Now I'm not against general quotes or mild (which means little) trivia or background info which helps the viewer's educational experience. The F bomb quotes aren't an educational experience. They're there just for laughs. Sure it may be a classic funny line from the film. But so what? That's not what the page is for.

Movie REVIEW pages use quotes from the movie because they are showing 'slices' of the movie experience. IMFDB is here for one primary goal, to showcase and prove what firearms were used. Minor behind the scenes or filmmaking trivia is okay, but a screenshot which is there JUST to showcase a smart ass line of dialogue is not.

[Rockwolf66]

I just removed a Sexist remark from the Serenity page. It was a comment on a picture taken durring the chase scene that sugests that women are bad drivers. We don't need that kind of garbage on this site.

Besides I don't like getting punched by attractive women who have been upset by those sorts of things.

[The Wierd It]

I'm all for keeping particularly notable quotes, or possibly if a character decides to gush over whatever weapon it is they're carrying, but using quotes solely for inserting profanity needs to be hammered.

[Evil Tim]

I still think you're overstating this a little: from a site search, the word "fuck" appears in 17 articles out of, at last count, 7,480. Of those, 3,168 are media pages (categories movie, videogame, TV and anime), meaning 0.5% of media pages contain those words (perhaps the most surprising part of this is that none of those 17 are videogames). Of those, very few obviously have shots chosen just because they contain swearing; in some cases, the quotes are placed on the only shots actually containing the weapon (eg Magnum Force). In all the ones I looked at, the quotes match up to good shots of the weapon itself. In a lot of cases the language has been there for years without causing comment.

I have to say it mostly concerns me because I tend to screencap videogames with the subtitles on, and don't want to either add black boxes to screenshots (which would look ridiculous) or throw out perfectly good images just because they have "bad" subtitles on them. The same would apply to subtitled foreign movies and anime.

[Mandolin1]

I just removed a Sexist remark from the Serenity page. It was a comment on a picture taken durring the chase scene that sugests that women are bad drivers. We don't need that kind of garbage on this site.

Besides I don't like getting punched by attractive women who have been upset by those sorts of things.

That was a joke. As in, humor. How is humor garbage? Why do you have a problem with that?

[Spades of Columbia]

I just need to say one thing on this subject...This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps!...Do you see what HAPPENS, LARRY!

[Rockwolf66]

Originally Posted by Mandolin1

That was a joke. As in, humor. How is humor garbage? Why do you have a problem with that?

It implys that all women are bad drivers.

IRL I know quite a few women who have tempers and are known to hit people when they are insulted.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Evil Tim

In all the ones I looked at, the quotes match up to good shots of the weapon itself. In a lot of cases the language has been there for years without causing comment.

Uh, NO. Why not just describe the weapon and who is wielding it. Do you really need to just have a great screencap, but only with "F**k you AND your mother!" as the text? Do you think that's gonna get a hearty belly laugh out of the general public??? You're confusing eliminating the SCREENCAP all together with just changing the text to something talking about the weapon in the context of the movie. I actually don't LIKE quotes because too many guys get off on the quote's coolness factor, rather than being an educational resource to inform the public about the weapons, weapons trivia, film trivia (to a very small extent), film history, etc. Sure there are classic and hilarious F bomb quotes. They also don't belong here. There is NO POINT to just posting a screencap with a profane quote. It's not funny, it's childish.

[Evil Tim]

As I've said, I'm not against the idea of removing quotes where they're not useful, but I'm more concerned with blanket rules that allow no exceptions. For example, George Clooney's quote in Three Kings is actually the best way to describe what's shown in the trivia image.

Like I said, what most concerns me is how this relates to subtitles, and I guess I'm taking your comments a little personally because:

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/b/bc/Homefront-M4-4.jpg

I didn't choose that image (or the three others on the Homefront page which contain that word) because it had swearing in it or because it was cool or edgy, I chose it because it's a close-up of the in-world M4 model. Banning all swearing would either mean I have to play these games through ~4 times (I leave the subtitles on when I'm recording for Youtube, and screencapping a 6-hour game already takes about as long as doing a TV miniseries and eats about 10 gigs of space on my hard drive*), use shots that aren't necessarily the best ones I could use, or stick ridiculous black boxes on screencaps.

*To further explain, my capture device's software crashes if I try to take screenshots, so I have to record the entire game as video and then go back and take caps from that. This involves 1-2 practice runs of the game, followed by a recorded run. Modern games average 5-10 hours for an FPS, going up to >48 hours for a big RPG-type game. It's an enormous commitment of time if you want something better than staring at a wall with the All Weapons cheat on as per that godawful Soldier of Fortune 2 page.