Tried Weaver first time.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Last time I shot Center Axis Relock was with a Taurus 9mm 1911 and I noticed no change in group size with weaver and CAR.

Trigger always gets me, a longer heavier pull i pull muzzle off target. So a sig dak trigger is hoot poor, a nice 1911 i shot nice. I like to squeeze, bang.

What you want to do is have a steady pull straight back, don't let off or slow down if your sights go off target, just bring it back up while pulling back still. I learned to shoot handguns with a Daisy Semi auto CO2 pistol with a heavy (8 lbs I think?) trigger that was long and thats how I learned to shoot handguns, self taught. The best way to learn to shoot handguns is to start off with double action, if you learn to shoot that first, you can shoot anything.

Dry fire really helps aswell, pick a "target" with your unloaded gun and pull the trigger while doing your best to keep the sights alinged and as you get better, pull the trigger faster.

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by FIVETWOSEVEN

I learned to shoot handguns with a Daisy Semi auto CO2 pistol with a heavy (8 lbs I think?) trigger that was long and thats how I learned to shoot handguns, self taught. The best way to learn to shoot handguns is to start off with double action, if you learn to shoot that first, you can shoot anything.

Dry fire really helps aswell, pick a "target" with your unloaded gun and pull the trigger while doing your best to keep the sights alinged and as you get better, pull the trigger faster.

I'm a big fan of dry fire. Since I made it part of my routine I've seen a real improvement.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Checkman

I'm a big fan of dry fire. Since I made it part of my routine I've seen a real improvement.

I've always wanted to try out dry-firing, but I am not sure if doing so would harm my 4506 in any way

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

I've always wanted to try out dry-firing, but I am not sure if doing so would harm my 4506 in any way

I use Snap Caps in all my firearms when doing dry fire. Even in the Ruger revolvers. The peace of mind is worth the extra expense in my opinion.

[k9870]

And snap caps help practice loading and unloading.

i think a perfect trigger weight is 4.5 pounds. The Triggers on SIG da/sa autos (in sa) many 1911s and my revovler (n sa) are this lght and shoot well but you can control it unlike a 2lb match trgger that goes off you stare at it too long.

Im not wedded to one grip. Some people think you use one for everything and avoid the other. In a real gunfight, standing squared up, shouler width apart arms fully outstretched will get you killed, you have to run to cover. ISO is great for running forward or back. However, side to side, you have to use weaver-ish hold. And shooting around cover, I would use weaver to expose as little of myself as possible. However ill never use the thumbs forward grip, sure the big name competitors use it, but steel plates dont get drunk and try to steal your gun, get closer than 10 yards, and need to be held up while being cuffed.

[Gunmaster45]

Originally Posted by k9870

And snap caps help practice loading and unloading.

i think a perfect trigger weight is 4.5 pounds. The Triggers on SIG da/sa autos (in sa) many 1911s and my revovler (n sa) are this lght and shoot well but you can control it unlike a 2lb match trgger that goes off you stare at it too long.

Im not wedded to one grip. Some people think you use one for everything and avoid the other. In a real gunfight, standing squared up, shouler width apart arms fully outstretched will get you killed, you have to run to cover. ISO is great for running forward or back. However, side to side, you have to use weaver-ish hold. And shooting around cover, I would use weaver to expose as little of myself as possible. However ill never use the thumbs forward grip, sure the big name competitors use it, but steel plates dont get drunk and try to steal your gun, get closer than 10 yards, and need to be held up while being cuffed.

The idea with ISO is you stay in retention while moving and alternating targets (meaning you bring the gun into your chest with your elbows cocked out) and then extend, touch, press when needed. If the target is too close to extend, you rest your non-dominant hand on your chest and fire at the target from the hip. The point of retention is so you keep the gun close to you at all times, and your elbows stay cocked out so someone cannot easily disarm you from behind.

Alternatively with Weaver, the defensive stance is to have the gun pointed towards the ground. This is better than the "Hollywood High Ready", because if someone tries to grab your arms and stop you from bringing your gun to the ready, you can fire into their legs and abdomen, where with the High Ready you wouldn't be able to level the gun on them.

I sort of mix Weaver with ISO. I like to keep my left elbow bent when I extend, it keeps me more stable and for some reason, it looks more professional to me than having both arms fully extended (it looks amateurish to me). But I like the retention, it makes you fast and keeps you safe from disarming when it's not the first thing you think of.

[k9870]

venticedi kind of prefer soon autos and weaver with wheelguns due to much better recoil control in weaver. Seemsi can control heavy triggers in weaver better too.