Modern Warfare 3

[Evil Tim]

Originally Posted by Mandolin1

To me, fighting in New York is the epitome of stupid. To do so is to surrender any artilery, air support, and armor advantage. Artillery and aircraft are useless with the tall buildings and helecopters are vulnerable to anti-tank-rockets and machine guns, since the buildings get in the way and limit manuvability. APCs will be better than tanks, since the autocannon of an APC has a higher elevation than a tank's main gun, and any advantage the tank has in the armor department is negated (again) by anti-tank teams six stories up shooting at the thin top armor.

Well, a tank with an RWS mounting a Mark 19 would be as useful as an IFV (a Brad's chaingun is still limited to 60 degrees elevation while I believe an M151 Protector can shoot straight up if you feel so inclined) and you shouldn't underestimate the usefulness of a tank in urban warfare; while they need infantry support, they don't have the issues missile-based platforms do with things like power lines. Also, recall they have whatever anti-missile system was on Honey Badger that made it think it was a Bradley.

Also, at least it's not the Nazis in Turning Point: Fall of Liberty dropping paratroops on downtown Manhattan while bombing and shelling it with battleships at the same time.

[The Wierd It]

Originally Posted by Evil Tim

Also, recall they have whatever anti-missile system was on Honey Badger that made it think it was a Bradley.

Honey Badger was a Stryker (More specifically an M1126).

[Excalibur]

Pretty sure when this comes out, I'm going to just rent it and see if it is worth having

[Evil Tim]

Originally Posted by The Wierd It

Honey Badger was a Stryker (More specifically an M1126).

Yeah, I know. That's kind of the point, they just stuck something like Trophy or Arena on it and deployed it like it was an IFV.

[Mandolin1]

Also, at least it's not the Nazis in Turning Point: Fall of Liberty dropping paratroops on downtown Manhattan while bombing and shelling it with battleships at the same time.

Ow, don't remind me. That game was SOOOOOO dumb. Have you seen the Let's Play of it on Youtube? Hilarious.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Mandolin1

Ow, don't remind me. That game was SOOOOOO dumb. Have you seen the Let's Play of it on Youtube? Hilarious.

I was just watching that video and the reviewer referred to himself as "Evil Tim". Don't we have an Evil Tim on here? Are they the same guy or are they just 2 completely unrelated guys named Tim who happen to be Evil?

[Mandolin1]

Yes, it's the same Evil Tim. He helped do the IMFDB page for the game.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Mandolin1

Yes, it's the same Evil Tim. He helped do the IMFDB page for the game.

I guessed so already, but I felt the need to confirm

[The Wierd It]

Originally Posted by Evil Tim

Yeah, I know. That's kind of the point, they just stuck something like Trophy or Arena on it and deployed it like it was an IFV.

I thought the 1126 was an IFV?

[Evil Tim]

Originally Posted by Mandolin1

Ow, don't remind me. That game was SOOOOOO dumb. Have you seen the Let's Play of it on Youtube? Hilarious.

I'm vaguely familiar with it, yes.

Originally Posted by The Wierd It

I thought the 1126 was an IFV?

From what I can gather, while ICV usually stands for "Infantry Combat Vehicle" and means IFV, in the specific case of the M1126 it means "Infantry Carrier Vehicle" which means APC. It doesn't really have the armour or armament to go IFV'ing.