Osama Bin Laden dead

[k9870]

so bury, what would you do with israel? Just wondering, turn it into a hezbolla plaground or another islamic regime?

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by k9870

so bury, what would you do with israel? Just wondering, turn it into a hezbolla plaground or another islamic regime?

Making it another Islamic regime would be just as bad as it is now. A secular government is the only answer, with all Jews and Palestinians given equal voice, all ethnic and religious distinctions erased in the eyes of the state. Anyone who doesn't want to play nice (Hezbollah, Zionists) can just leave, or be labelled an enemy of the state and terrorist and be prosecuted. The Jews like to portray themselves as being peaceful and wanting to be left alone to be Jewish in their Jewish homeland, using military action only defensively. The truth is they're just as hateful, bigoted, and intolerant as any other group of people that has ever claimed supremacy or superiority over others (the Jews consider themselves "God's chosen people", you can't get much more arrogant than that).

[k9870]

The israeli government is freely elected. Its just like ours, our gov thinks america is the greatest thing since americans are the oters, israels thinks judiaism is the best cause its jews voting.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by k9870

The israeli government is freely elected. Its just like ours, our gov thinks america is the greatest thing since americans are the oters, israels thinks judiaism is the best cause its jews voting.

This is messy and unclear, please clarify.

[k9870]

The israeli government is jewish because the people electing the officials are jews. There is tolerance there though. Jews, muslims and christians all live in israel with equal rights.

I was saing that of course the israeli government comes off as jewish because most of their citizens are jews, our gov comes off as christian since thats what most of the voters/elected people are. Governments and policies in a democrac reflect the demographic of the voters.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by k9870

The israeli government is jewish because the people electing the officials are jews. There is tolerance there though. Jews, muslims and christians all live in israel with equal rights.

I was saing that of course the israeli government comes off as jewish because most of their citizens are jews, our gov comes off as christian since thats what most of the voters/elected people are.

Living in a walled off compound, blocked off from free trade, with soldiers free to break into your home and demolish it at will is not freedom or equal rights. Israel is not a secular state with a majority Jewish population, like the USA is a secular state with a majority Christian population. It is a Jewish state, run by Jews, for Jews, using Jewish law. They changed the name from the ethnically neutral "Palestine" to the Hebrew language "Israel", stuck the Star of David on their flag, they even have special Orthodox-only neighborhoods that are supported financially by the state. If Jews wanted to live in Palestine because of their religious birthright beliefs, they could have just worked, with international cooperation, to create a multicultural, secular regime. But no, they didn't do that, that was never the goal. Zionism is the belief that Israel is for Jews only. They invaded Palestine, created a government antithetical to a majority of the native population (most first generation Israelis were immigrants from Europe), and then went to war when other legitimate nations tried to expel them for being a foreign-born military coup.

Also, let's not forget who Israel was BFF's with way back in the day, South Africa. When the entire civilized, Western world decided that South Africa needed to be brought in line, Israel didn't just abstain and continue to do business with them, they adopted South Africa's apartheid tactics for social control.

[k9870]

Went to war with other legitimate nations? Like the dictatorships of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, i think the even fought the saudis a couple times. All dictatorships, and their own citizens are even rebelling in those countries now.