Micro Uzi/Uzi Pistol

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by predator20

On some screencaps you may not be able to tell. Why complicate? I don't know anything about Micro Uzi's, but if the folding stock can be added, so can a compensator.

If you can't tell, then it would be safer to assume Uzi Pistol over Micro Uzi. The compensator is integral to the barrel, so the entire barrel would have to be swapped out. And if one can tell, then one should properly identify. Anything that has no stock and no compensator is an Uzi Pistol. There are even some photographs here on the site that are labeled "Micro Uzi" when you can clearly see "Uzi Pistol" stamped into the receiver.

[predator20]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

If you can't tell, then it would be safer to assume Uzi Pistol over Micro Uzi. The compensator is integral to the barrel, so the entire barrel would have to be swapped out. And if one can tell, then one should properly identify. Anything that has no stock and no compensator is an Uzi Pistol. There are even some photographs here on the site that are labeled "Micro Uzi" when you can clearly see "Uzi Pistol" stamped into the receiver.

Yes and what do they say in front of that "Micro".

Also I don't get what you mean by the compensator being integral to the barrel. Compensators are usually added to the front of the barrel. If you're talking about barrel porting. That's not a compensator.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by predator20

Yes and what do they say in front of that "Micro".

Also I don't get what you mean by the compensator being integral to the barrel. Compensators are usually added to the front of the barrel. If you're talking about barrel porting. That's not a compensator.

Uzi Pistol


Micro Uzi


Note the differences in length from the front of the receiver to the end of the muzzle.

[predator20]

You said this site. "Micro" Uzi Pistol



The one you show above with the bent trigger guard, that's barrel porting

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by predator20

You said this site. "Micro" Uzi Pistol



The one you show above with the bent trigger guard, that's barrel porting

What is the stamping on the bottom one behind the folded stock? It looks like that one might not even be of Israeli origin. Also why is "Micro" not as prominently stamped in there? I didn't notice it before because of how faint it is.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Also I just noticed that the Uzi Pistol has a different shaped grip.

[predator20]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

What is the stamping on the bottom one behind the folded stock? It looks like that one might not even be of Israeli origin. Also why is "Micro" not as prominently stamped in there? I didn't notice it before because of how faint it is.

I think Action Arms or Vector Arms.

The faint Micro markings, not sure. Maybe it was added later, but not why it would be.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Here's something interesting.

Official Israeli manufactured Micro Uzi from IMI.


"Micro Uzi Pistol" of unknown origin.


Notice where the folding stock hinge is attached to the receiver. The first one is very clean. The second one is very rough, as if the stock had been crudely welded on as an afterthought or modification.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

What is the stamping on the bottom one behind the folded stock? It looks like that one might not even be of Israeli origin. Also why is "Micro" not as prominently stamped in there? I didn't notice it before because of how faint it is.

Both of these guns (they are from the inventory of MPM2008's company, and were photographed by him) are civilian Uzi Pistols (imported by Action Arms) that were converted to full-auto (and they're also converted to blank-fire, since they're intended for movie use). The "A" for auto was stamped in after the auto sear was added, and so was the "Micro" printed next to "Uzi Pistol". I have no idea who did the conversion work on either of these guns, but I believe most of the full-auto Uzi Pistols in prop houses' inventories were modified by LaFrance Specialties in the 1980s. You'd have to ask MPM in order to be sure who modified these particular weapons.

The reason we call all of these guns "Micro Uzis" and not "Uzi Pistols" is because there are almost no genuine "Micro Uzis" in Hollywood. Actually, make that Uzis, period. Almost any time you've seen an Uzi variant in a movie or TV show filmed outside of Israel (whether full-size, Mini, or Micro), you are looking at a civilian variant that has been converted to full-auto. So my point is, if you were to try and distinguish between the "Micro Uzis" and "Uzi Pistols", you might as well just call all of them Uzi Pistols.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by MT2008

The reason we call all of these guns "Micro Uzis" and not "Uzi Pistols" is because there are almost no genuine "Micro Uzis" in Hollywood. Actually, make that Uzis, period. Almost any time you've seen an Uzi variant in a movie or TV show filmed outside of Israel (whether full-size, Mini, or Micro), you are looking at a civilian variant that has been converted to full-auto. So my point is, if you were to try and distinguish between the "Micro Uzis" and "Uzi Pistols", you might as well just call all of them Uzi Pistols.

Don't we have rules for similar situations for other guns that default to the exact opposite conclusion? Assuming HK91 over G3 is the only one I can think of specifically off the top of my head.

Originally Posted by MT2008

Both of these guns (they are from the inventory of MPM2008's company, and were photographed by him) are civilian Uzi Pistols (imported by Action Arms) that were converted to full-auto (and they're also converted to blank-fire, since they're intended for movie use). The "A" for auto was stamped in after the auto sear was added, and so was the "Micro" printed next to "Uzi Pistol". I have no idea who did the conversion work on either of these guns, but I believe most of the full-auto Uzi Pistols in prop houses' inventories were modified by LaFrance Specialties in the 1980s. You'd have to ask MPM in order to be sure who modified these particular weapons.

And now that we know this, we can know with almost complete certainty that you can tell a Micro Uzi from an Uzi Pistol by the muzzle. Also for video games and animation there's no reason to assume Micro Uzi. If it's drawn/rendered as an Uzi Pistol, it's an Uzi Pistol.