Wow, I really like something beretta made....

[ManiacallyChallenged]

Bulky and fat indeed. That's probably why I don't like the polymer guns, all so very chunky.

[Markost]

According to the 9th Parachute Assault Regiment from the Italian Army, the rifle sucks, and its not better than the G36k and Bushmaster M4A3 currently in service.

[ersoz]

Form should follow function not the other way around which is the Italian way.
Designwise, Italians are hard to beat. They are very good at creating objects of beauty. But, when it comes to engineering and reliability, that's a whole other story.
There is something else that's been bothering me. I believe in that old saying: "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
Current assault rifles are getting the job done. They are accurate, cost effective, reliable, light, battle proven, "user friendly" and inexpensive.
Why are people still trying to reinvent the wheel?
BTW...Italians invented espresso but my espresso machine is german.

[k9870]

Theres "if it aint broke why fix it"
theres "if it aint the best why not improve it."

Not saying this is a much better desighn, im saying i like it and would like a civilian version. I like innovation and new desighns.

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I'd say the Idea of this is great, having more than one release allows one to have a preference of how they change mags. Same with sling points.

[k9870]

Tool-less break down is nice, and the barrel actually is quick change, very quick, and its truly abidextrous, not like the aug thats a chore to swap. Just seems light, user friendly and full of features.

[Yournamehere]

The next generation weapon systems would be worth looking at if they didn't cost so much per unit, that's the main problem. For civilians, it's nice to pay maybe an extra 500-1000 dollars to get every conveivable bell and whistle short of an "auto" setting on the selector switch, but the militaries of the world have weapons that work well enough at a certain price point, and if that can't be beat, chaning is just detrimental. It's said the Beretta 92 won the contract over the SIG submission partially, if not primarily, because they brought the cost down. The'll stick with the gun that has a problem four times as often as long as it costs one fourth as much, or even one half as much. Economics!

[k9870]

I dont care if it gets big contracts, I just want a civilian version as a fun gun maybe carbine courses. Its just surprising, I generally dont like beretta products based on fit/features (HATE slide mounted safeties.) u22 grip is skinny and it feels toylike, and the pocket pistols are too tiny and pretty heavy for the size, cx4 is expensive for a psitol caliber plinker. But then this...damn me liking beretta.......

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by k9870

I dont care if it gets big contracts, I just want a civilian version as a fun gun maybe carbine courses. Its just surprising, I generally dont like beretta products based on fit/features (HATE slide mounted safeties.) u22 grip is skinny and it feels toylike, and the pocket pistols are too tiny and pretty heavy for the size, cx4 is expensive for a psitol caliber plinker. But then this...damn me liking beretta.......

If it's any consolation, I think the Cougar is a pretty cool gun

[Markost]

Originally Posted by Yournamehere

The next generation weapon systems would be worth looking at if they didn't cost so much per unit, that's the main problem. For civilians, it's nice to pay maybe an extra 500-1000 dollars to get every conveivable bell and whistle short of an "auto" setting on the selector switch, but the militaries of the world have weapons that work well enough at a certain price point, and if that can't be beat, chaning is just detrimental.

For example, the Argentine Navy adopted the M16 instead the FAMAS due to the price (300$ against +-1000$).