Yep, Pirates are everywhere....

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

iI've actually heard the BS response that the photo looks like a manufacturer's pic, thus is fair game. I point out that it is NOT a manufacturer's pic, that IMFDB's pics are far SUPERIOR to most factory pics and per DCMA requirements, they can't steal it anyway.

Dunno how serious you're being, but put yourselves in the shoes of Billy Bob Average for a second. Do you really think most people can tell the difference between your pics and manufacturers' pics? And by most people, I don't mean me. I can tell the difference, and so can many other IMFDB members, but that's because we know you and we're familiar with your specific techniques.

And if somebody just searches for a gun name in Google Images, your pics are often the first to come up, especially when the weapons are rare or seldom-photographed. Most people who are just looking for a pic of the gun (i.e. the dude who did this advertisement) aren't going to pay much attention to where the image came from, let alone any rules that apply. (And unfortunately, we live in an era where most people think that if it can be found on Google, copyrights are irrelevant.)

As I have said, I can and will talk to Sovereign Guns' manager, if you want. Just give me an affirmative or negative. Please?

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by MT2008

As I have said, I can and will talk to Sovereign Guns' manager, if you want. Just give me an affirmative or negative. Please?

As per the first part, I am well aware of the circumstances. That being said, ALSO, ignorance of the law is no excuse. I can always demand a removal per DCMA and their ISPs will probably comply. The more I've checked into that, more and more ISPs will just yank the account rather than suffer from larger litigation per their intentional non-action regarding DCMA claims.

As to the 2nd part, I don't really care since it is a temporary situation. The gun will get sold and the posting goes away anyway. I am curious though, if they know they're posting pics of full auto guns, which is pretty funny LOL

So it's up to you, but I don't feel a pressing need to slam them. It's not like they're like those douchebags lifting ENTIRE SECTIONS of imfdb part and parcel onto their own sites and claiming it as their own.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

So it's up to you, but I don't feel a pressing need to slam them. It's not like they're like those douchebags lifting ENTIRE SECTIONS of imfdb part and parcel onto their own sites and claiming it as their own.

I'll at least email them and tell them that they're showing a picture of a full-auto weapon. I imagine the fear of dealing with ATF will be a lot scarier than copyright laws.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

So the problem is two fold.
Pertinent to us as a website: They used MPM's pic w/out asking.
More so just funny: They used a fully automatic blank converted gun pic to represent a civilian model.

:O All kinds of wacky.

[ersoz]

The auction is over... the pic's gone...

I'm pretty sure ATF is monitoring major firearms related forums and websites, including this one. Chances are, they already know about it.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Again, only an ATF agent would probably notice the difference

They also think plastic airsoft toys can be converted to live-firing selective-fire weapons with "minimal work", so sometimes I question their competency.

Though it's still a bad idea to try them, of course.

Originally Posted by ersoz

The auction is over... the pic's gone...

No, it isn't. I'm looking at the webpage myself and the pic currently on there looks identical to MPM's.

[ersoz]

I'm pretty sure the pic was removed yesterday. My bad.