Actor destroyed my Remington 1907-15 Berthier

[AlkoTanko]

Who pays for the guns that are broken due to actor's mistake, them or their agents? Or is it so-called "tough sh*t" for armourers?

[Alcatrazz]

Which movie or show were you working on?

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by AlkoTanko

Who pays for the guns that are broken due to actor's mistake, them or their agents? Or is it so-called "tough sh*t" for armourers?

The production company is liable for damage. The actor never sees ANY liability nor responsibility for their actions and rarely do their actions result in them being fired so there is NO INCENTIVE for them to act responsibly (except for an armorer yelling at time). Also production companies many times don't realize nor care that guns are rare or in pristine condition when they are used. This also goes for any historical item that is real (like gear or uniforms). Also the heads of the props/Art departments can be real penny pinchers.

"Oh! Its ridiculous to expect us to reimburse anything more than $50 for a destroyed Colt Single Action Army!!!" Etc. Because many times they know nothing about guns and think I'm lying when I quote them the blue book value.

To be fair, the major studio productions are usually pretty good about paying replacement cost (PLUS punitive damages) but that's not the point. We all know there are guns we just can't replace so it really sucks when actors act like retards.

[AlkoTanko]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

The production company is liable for damage. The actor never sees ANY liability nor responsibility for their actions and rarely do their actions result in them being fired so there is NO INCENTIVE for them to act responsibly (except for an armorer yelling at time). Also production companies many times don't realize nor care that guns are rare or in pristine condition when they are used. This also goes for any historical item that is real (like gear or uniforms). Also the heads of the props/Art departments can be real penny pinchers.

"Oh! Its ridiculous to expect us to reimburse anything more than $50 for a destroyed Colt Single Action Army!!!" Etc. Because many times they know nothing about guns and think I'm lying when I quote them the blue book value.

To be fair, the major studio productions are usually pretty good about paying replacement cost (PLUS punitive damages) but that's not the point. We all know there are guns we just can't replace so it really sucks when actors act like retards.

Something tells me this wasn't the first time it happened. I would expect bit more professional manner from actors when handling props for their roles, be it gun, suit or a pen. But actors can be really childish at times, be it Hollywood megastars or amateurs in their schoolmate's art project.

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by AlkoTanko

Something tells me this wasn't the first time it happened. I would expect bit more professional manner from actors when handling props for their roles, be it gun, suit or a pen. But actors can be really childish at times, be it Hollywood megastars or amateurs in their schoolmate's art project.

I've seen a lot of behind the scenes on how actors like to fuck around when they are in costume and mess around with their props, be it anything. What we don't see on special features of DVDs is when actors really do fuck shit up. And actors are too busy trying to get a good glamor shot than worry about their "props", I mean look at Christan Bale, the DP walks in front of the camera and he flips out. Most actors are just either real assholes or too scared of their own fans.

But there are some exceptions to actors who use guns on set and treat them with respect, go through the harsh training of learning how to use a gun and appreciating it, but those actors are rare to find.

[k9870]

Who are the best actors with guns, and who are the worst?

[Spartan198]

Aw, man, what a tragedy...

[AlkoTanko]

Originally Posted by k9870

Who are the best actors with guns, and who are the worst?

Ones that come to my mind about actors having actual skills with firearms (I'd like to point out I am no expert in this matter): Thomas Jane, Mark Wahlberg, Bruce Willis, Brad Pitt and Kevin Costner to some extent.

[Gunmaster45]

I'd say only Brad Pitt, Kevin Costner, and Bruce Willis deserve the mentions, as they actually still use firearms training they recieved in the past and continued to use it in other films. Thomas Jane still has yet to prove himself after learning so much for his training in The Punisher. Mark Wahlberg doesn't handle guns well. Look at Max Payne, he learned so much for Shooter and didn't use any of it. I think he is against guns too, so I don't like him.

[AlkoTanko]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

I've seen a lot of behind the scenes on how actors like to fuck around when they are in costume and mess around with their props, be it anything. What we don't see on special features of DVDs is when actors really do fuck shit up. And actors are too busy trying to get a good glamor shot than worry about their "props", I mean look at Christan Bale, the DP walks in front of the camera and he flips out. Most actors are just either real assholes or too scared of their own fans.

But there are some exceptions to actors who use guns on set and treat them with respect, go through the harsh training of learning how to use a gun and appreciating it, but those actors are rare to find.

Bale-out was very very tame compared to the fits Klaus Kinski had. For example, during shooting Aguirre, he once got irritated by extras making noise in their tent while he tried to sleep, so he grabbed a rifle and fired three fucking rounds into the tent blindly. Luckily, only one person was hit, top of his finger came off. Kinski also nearly splitted fellow actor's head with a sword while filming, only his helmet saved his life.