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Old 11-16-2010, 07:12 PM
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The character was against guns but it was more a less a plot device, IMO. Reember, the show was about him making inventions and using his mind. If MacGyver carried a gun, well, this would be the show formula.

1. bad guys do something.
2. macgyver sees this.
3. "Bang"
4. credits

Elapsed time: 3 minutes.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:20 PM
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The character was against guns but it was more a less a plot device, IMO. Reember, the show was about him making inventions and using his mind. If MacGyver carried a gun, well, this would be the show formula.

1. bad guys do something.
2. macgyver sees this.
3. "Bang"
4. credits

Elapsed time: 3 minutes.
That's the thing I like about "Burn Notice"...Michael Westen comes up with all sorts of crazy improvised weapons and schemes to defeat the bad guys, but he isn't so self-righteous that he never uses guns. "Burn Notice" is pretty much the show that I wish "MacGyver" could have been (aside from the protagonist's distaste for guns, it was otherwise a pretty cool show).

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I dont know...i remember a episode where a bald eagle gets shot at the begining and believing it to be pretty open about hunters and civilians with firearms being a bad thing.
Hmmm, point taken then. But as long as the show wasn't constantly and overtly political about guns, I'm still not sure it's fair to classify "MacGyver" as an anti-gun show in the same way as "Liberty Stands Still" or "Strapped" (for example).
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So...would a...Bowling for columbine be concidered anti-gun.


ooh...and a real one would be "American Gun".
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Lord of War was off and on Anti gun

I believe all the Leathal Weapons have anti-gun themes

and Witness had a anti-gun speech in it
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I didn't think it was all that anti-gun (besides the line about "There are more gun stores in America than McDonald's"). Deliberately selling weapons to dictators, war lords, and terrorists (knowing exactly how they plan to use the weapons), in violation of arms embargoes, is something I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person can agree is wrong, regardless of where they stand in the American gun control debate.
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Lord of War also showed that the bad guys had to buy illegally from him, they werent strolling into cabelas and coming out with a HK21e.
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I didn't think it was all that anti-gun (besides the line about "There are more gun stores in America than McDonald's"). Deliberately selling weapons to dictators, war lords, and terrorists (knowing exactly how they plan to use the weapons), in violation of arms embargoes, is something I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person can agree is wrong, regardless of where they stand in the American gun control debate.
"Lord of War opens with one of the most impressive and provocative credit sequences in recent memory. Adopting a point-of-view perspective, the camera follows a bullet from its manufacture in an American factory to various ports, then across the globe to a small African village where it is placed in the chamber of a pistol and shot through the skull of a young boy."
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I was speaking for on the front that the US gets more blame on gun issues and that Nato is alway doing heavy pushing on small arms banning. Plus the movie fail to properly inform the mainstream audiences about the deeper issues.
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"Lord of War opens with one of the most impressive and provocative credit sequences in recent memory. Adopting a point-of-view perspective, the camera follows a bullet from its manufacture in an American factory to various ports, then across the globe to a small African village where it is placed in the chamber of a pistol and shot through the skull of a young boy."
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I was speaking for on the front that the US gets more blame on gun issues and that Nato is alway doing heavy pushing on small arms banning. Plus the movie fail to properly inform the mainstream audiences about the deeper issues.
This "AZRickD" obviously doesn't know jack shit about weapons, and was also clearly not paying attention and/or high during the movie. The bullet shown isn't made in an American factory, it's made in a RUSSIAN factory, and it's fired from an AK, not a pistol. Seriously, dude, why on Earth would you trust some retarded leftist critic more than you trust me?

I'm also not sure how this movie blames the U.S., aside from the fact that Yuri Orlov (Cage's character) manages to get off because he has sent arms to authoritarian regimes that also happened to be CIA allies. It is true that during the Cold War, the U.S. supplied weapons to militia groups that probably shouldn't have received them. The movie does make clear that the origin of most of the weapons is from unsecured stocks in the former Soviet Union, not the U.S.
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For the record it was a 7.62x39mm bullet loaded into an AK.
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Lord of War was off and on Anti gun

I believe all the Leathal Weapons have anti-gun themes

and Witness had a anti-gun speech in it
Richard Donner is anti-gun.
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