Severe allergies to foregrips?

[gunguy001]

After spending 18 yrs in the military, I've learned to roll my eye's on the inside.

If the actor doesn't want to use the K grip then they don't have too.
I always coach them to be comfy, because if they try to look like they know what they are doing they will fail.
They have a lot to worry about like lines and hitting the mark blah blah.

We are make a movie not saving the world.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by gunguy001

After spending 18 yrs in the military, I've learned to roll my eye's on the inside.

If the actor doesn't want to use the K grip then they don't have too.
I always coach them to be comfy, because if they try to look like they know what they are doing they will fail.
They have a lot to worry about like lines and hitting the mark blah blah.

We are make a movie not saving the world.

Thanks for the reply, Al, good to hear from you again. How's showbiz been going lately?

[Excalibur]

Done any awesome movies with good shootouts? I know as the guy with the guns, it can be frustrating working with actors and directors that might not always listen

[ManiacallyChallenged]

A good movie CAN save the world!
So keep at it, whatever you're doing.

[gunguy001]

Just finished "Red", look for the belt feed machine gun and guess what it is.
Finished RE4 afterlife in 3D end of last year, working on a few more right now.

Actors are like everybody else, they put pants on the same way we do.

[MT2008]

Just so everyone knows, Al has worked on "Flashpoint" (since that's one of the examples of "foregrip allergy" that has been cited in this topic). His IMDB credits are here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214249/

Originally Posted by gunguy001

Just finished "Red", look for the belt feed machine gun and guess what it is.
Finished RE4 afterlife in 3D end of last year, working on a few more right now.

Actors are like everybody else, they put pants on the same way we do.

IMDB says you got to work on something w/ Spielberg, too. How did that go?

I'm just so envious that you got to work on "Boondock Saints II" (dunno if you're a fan of the first one or not).

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by gunguy001

Just finished "Red", look for the belt feed machine gun and guess what it is.
Finished RE4 afterlife in 3D end of last year, working on a few more right now.

Actors are like everybody else, they put pants on the same way we do.

Think you can tell us some of the guns you got for Resident Evil Afterlife?

I still can't believe they are continuously making these bad RE movies.

[k9870]

I'm wondering, how did you get the jennings to cycle in boondock saints 2? Those guns choke on real ammo let alone blanks.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by gunguy001

If the actor doesn't want to use the K grip then they don't have too.
I always coach them to be comfy, because if they try to look like they know what they are doing they will fail.
They have a lot to worry about like lines and hitting the mark blah blah.

We are make a movie not saving the world.

I'm surprised that you didn't remove the foregrips from the guns used by the actors who don't want to use them. That would give them SOME plausibility. I think there's even accessories for certain firearms that allow for a better and safer grip on the magwell!

And here I was thinking that proper gun stance and gun grip techniques were crucial to convincingly displaying these actors as crack cops in Flashpoint. Extensive firearms training is essential with SWAT type units, after all.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

I'm surprised that you didn't remove the foregrips from the guns used by the actors who don't want to use them. That would give them SOME plausibility. I think there's even accessories for certain firearms that allow for a better and safer grip on the magwell!

And here I was thinking that proper gun stance and gun grip techniques were crucial to convincingly displaying these actors as crack cops in Flashpoint. Extensive firearms training is essential with SWAT type units, after all.

I really think you are obsessing over this a little too much. Actually, "little" might be an under-statement. If the failure of actors to use foregrips is impeding you from enjoying the show, then go watch another show.

As for the armorers, there's only so much they can do. Their first and foremost concern is safety, not realism (lack of safety is what gets people hurt...and brings lawsuits). It's difficult enough for armorers just to ensure safety on a big show with dozens of guns being used on-set. And the director is the one who decides if another take is necessary, not the armorer. If the director decides that an actor must use the foregrip on an M4 or MP5K at all times (as I'm sure Michael Mann would insist), then the actor is of course going to do what the director says. But most directors aren't like that. So if the director doesn't care, and the actor doesn't care, and the director doesn't care that the actor doesn't care...the armorer can't do anything about it, no matter how they might feel.