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Old 03-30-2010, 10:26 PM
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It can't be a T Series, it has a Type 73 bushing, which puts it out of the serial number range. After doing some thinking, it might not even be what I thought it was. The Hi-Powers that FN make for Browning always have different rollmarks, so there's always 2 sets of commercial Hi-Powers, the Brownings that are more prominent in America and the FNs that are more prominent in Europe. That being said, it's possible that this rollmark was adopted by FN for the European pistols sometime after the T and C Series ones, which I've seen and do look different. With that theory in place, it could be a 1985 (the serial number prefix for this example was 245PV indicating 1985 as the manufacture date, I would have shown you if this had progressed) FN produced gun, but around this time, FEG was making illegal copies of the FNs and even stamping the same particular rollmark on the gun. The serial number prefixes were usually single letters like "B" with the serial number following (similar to the T Series) so you could immediately tell if you had a fake FEG. The real question is, was the rollmark ever actually used by FN, or did FEG copy the serial number system too? I assumed it was an illegal copy and thought I'd stump you all, and I did, but I stumped myself while doing it. No one can guess what the gun is because I don't even know exactly what the example is, as it's more representative and theoretical than anything. Anyhow, we all learned something from that and since Nyles was closest to either of the answers, he can take a turn.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:14 AM
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Easier one this time, but I want the make AND model.
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Old 03-31-2010, 07:46 PM
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US Issue Canadian Ross M.1905 Mk.II Rifle, .303:

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Scarce US issue Canadian Ross M.1905 Mk.II straight pull rifle. Beginning in 1917, Ross M.1905 Mk. II rifles were used by the US military in training roles, to free up more M.1903 Springfield for the Western European front. The stock of this rifle offers a nice selection of various Canadian and US marks! The lower part of the buttstock displays, "Flaming Bomb over US " property mark, just behind the trigger guard. The stock also displays issue markings, model designation and serial number (please, see pictures). The right side of the buttstock displays, "36/1909 AS", and a cartouche, "'Crown', QUEBEC, DC, 'Broad Arrow'". There are also old markings, crossed with a single line, "4 12 66 193". The left side of the buttstock displays a letter, "B". The left side of the receiver displays following markings, "ROSS RIFLE CO. QUEBEC CANADA 1905 PATENTED". Straight pull bolt action with locking lugs turning inside the bolt. Five round internal box magazine ("Harris Controlled Platform" with a depressor behind the rear sight). The rear sight is graduated to 2,200 yards. The front sight with a hood. Four sling swivels. Bayonet lug on the nosecap. One barrel band. Walnut stock with a pistol grip and two short handguards. Correct style steel buttplate with a trap. Complete with a green web sling. Overall length: 48 inch. Barrel length: 28 inch. CONDITION: Fine+ to low excellent. 85% of original finish remaining on metal. The balance is in white mixed with some light patina. Some finish is turning to brownish color. Most of the wear is on the trigger guard, magazine cover, barrel band and nosecap. Some brown patina on the buttplate. Nice, smooth stock in original finish, with some handling marks and light dings. No cracks in the wood. All the markings on the stock and metal are clearly visible. Excellent bore with strong and shiny rifling. Crisp action. Mechanically, the rifle is in excellent condition. All the internal parts of the rifle are in fine condition, with no visible wear. Web sling is in fine condition. Scarce US issue Ross rifle in very collectible condition!
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:01 AM
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Right you are. Interesting point is that Mk.IIs were also used by Canadian troops for training - they even made it as far as England, but only the Mk.III was ever used in France / Belgium. You're up.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:28 PM
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Hint: 9x19 & .45
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Old 04-10-2010, 07:28 AM
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Hmm. I got nothing. I imagine it's another low production 1930s South American SMG, but as for make or model I don't know.
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Old 04-11-2010, 04:22 AM
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I've seen it before and I'll bee looking through my files.
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Old 04-24-2010, 02:49 AM
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Hint: It's in .303.
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Old 04-27-2010, 06:15 PM
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No one wants to take a crack at it? I even mentionned it in passing not that long ago.
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