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Old 03-18-2009, 06:00 PM
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I hate movies and shows taht show that every civilian and gangbanger has a beretta 92 though. And many more rural PDs give out revovlers, as a 6, 7 or 8 round 357 is more than enough for what's needed. I personally prefer a revovler or 1911, i'm split on that one.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:03 PM
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I hate movies and shows taht show that every civilian and gangbanger has a beretta 92 though. And many more rural PDs give out revovlers, as a 6, 7 or 8 round 357 is more than enough for what's needed. I personally prefer a revovler or 1911, i'm split on that one.
The use of the Beretta 92F series pistols is a prop masters preference unless the script calls for something special. The few shows done using a rural PD have used revolvers as in Jesse Stone series and In the Heat of the Night series. It's just a fact of art imitating life that Gang Bangers caught to day with weapons have a semi-auto although they are mostly cheap pistols like the Lorcen .380 they also weapons as nice as a custom 1911. The mix of revolvers to pistols is about 70% to 75% in favor of the pistol. It's all about image with gang members and using a revolver (Grandpa's Gun) does not help their image with other gang members.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:58 PM
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I remember hearing from someone who was processing weapons confinscated by police that most gang guns are saturday night specials like raven .25s and the most desirable gun they saw was a ruger single six. I guess it looks cooler in movies to have a glock or beretta.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:00 PM
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It doesn't shock me to see gangbangers with Berettas (although I don't think they could get there hands on a 92, maybe a 92F or 92FS ) that was my hinter to use proper Beretta designation, if no one caught that....

How hard is it for some gang member to take a Beretta off a dead cop or buy it from a black market sale? Berettas are common enough that some gangster with one isn't too shocking.

Like Steve said, autos dominate todays PDs and revolvers are sadly not as common. Enough private owners enjoy them though, so seeing a protaganist or off-duty cop with a revolver isn't as uncommon.

I think someone should re-invent the wheel with wheel-guns by building a new syle cylinder, that quick releases and can be swapped with a new one. This way, the cylinders act as magazines and make them less of a disadvantage to autos. I always liked the old blackpower revolvers like the Colt 1860 and the Remington 1858 because they offer this advantage, except some people didn't take advantage of it and tried to reload one all the way during a gunfight. Idiots.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:04 PM
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Yeah, crooks typically use something they can conceal well enough that a cop's patdown could miss it, which it rarely does. Raven .25s are good enough guns (my mom owns a nickel one with pearl grips, although she's never shot it), and for the record, Saturday Night Specials refer to inexpensive snub nose revolvers, I don't believe autos are ever given that name.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:14 PM
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Saturday night special means cheap gun. Doesn't matter what type.

Revovlers are common in PDs as a backup gun, many J frames take this place. Smith and Wesson and charter arms making some very light .38s.

And bad guys can aquire nice semiautos but only a few will, they're not rich and can't just rake out cash for one. A G17 is a status symbol for them.

As for quick reload, moon clips are actually incredibly fast if you know how to use them.
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Old 03-18-2009, 10:57 PM
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I know cops carry snubs as back up guns but I'm talking about service revolvers. Hardly any PDs issue revolvers as the officer's main gun.

And I know moon clips are very fast (I've seen Jerry Miculek shoot), but try loading flat head wad-cutters into a revolver quickly. The flat tips make it as hard to load them as trying to load empty shells in.

SNS is commonly used to define revolvers but autos apparrently enter the class too based on the definitions at urbandictionary.com.
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Old 03-18-2009, 11:01 PM
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SWAT entry men holding the shield also use revolvers, as there were problems with an auto's lside hitiing the shield causing jams. I know there not as common as semis, but you expect to see a few.
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