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05-05-2009, 02:32 AM
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Thompson Stick Mags & "Public Enemies"
Does anyone know what year the 20 & 30 round magazines were introduced for the Thompson SMG?
I ask because someone posted the following "goof" for "Public Enemies" on IMDB:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152836/goofs He's insinuating that box magazines didn't exist until after the start of WW2..isn't this total BS? Weren't the 20 round magazines available when the the 1921 model Thompson came on the market? I'm not sure when the 30 round mags became available, but I thought it was prior to WW2. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks. 
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05-05-2009, 02:44 AM
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 ) but I'm doing this from memory (and no, I'm not THAT old hahaha) so the 30 round magazine was developed since the soldiers didn't like the rattle of the drum magazines. But the drums were available since the late 1920s and were issued in the pre WW2 years to the U.S. Military (in the late 1930s) and as lend lease weapons to our allies. Photos of soldiers BEFORE Dec 7th show them with M1928 thompsons with drums. The 20 round magazines have been around since the beginning, and 30 round magazines were developed for the M1 series of Thompsons since they could NOT take the drum magazines, so the 30 round magazines were WW2 issued items and not issued until after 1941.
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05-05-2009, 02:59 AM
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So the guy who posted the goof is only partially right..he would be correct if he was only referring to the 30 round mag but the way that it's worded it sounds like box magazines didn't exist at all until WW2.
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05-05-2009, 04:04 AM
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MPM has it right on the mags for the Thompsons. The 20rd sticks have been around since the weapon was designed and the 30rd mags came into being in 1942 to increase the amount of ammo you can carry. A pouch carrying one 50rd drum can carry about five 30rd mags in the same space. That's extra 100rds and they are easier to load than the drum.
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05-05-2009, 05:10 AM
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I can't tell from the angle of the screen caps. Are those we see in the movie 20 or 30 round magazines? If they are 30, then we should point out that 30 rounders don't exist at the time.
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05-05-2009, 06:37 AM
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We do research the weapons for large period features to get the weapons correct right down to the magazines. There are other things that can change like Michael Mann wanting something special that might be iffy for the period. But for the most part we research the period to get things right. If you notice on Westerns from the 1930's to 1970's it was only the 1892 Winchester now it's Henry Rifles, 1866 Carbines and 1873 Carbines. Research, Research, Research, to change the was of Hollywood.
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05-27-2009, 07:23 PM
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Mann knows his shit, so don't be surprised if he wrote a conversation about the 38 super penetrating body armor into the film somewhere.
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05-27-2009, 08:35 PM
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I wish he'd still use sound like in Heat. Deafening gunfights are realistic, and if he can't do it because wusses have to plug their ears in the movie theater, too bad! Like Collateral had a hint of it, but Miami Vice (06) has pretty poor gunfire.
BTW, those are the only three Mann directed movies I've seen, so that's why I reference them so much. 
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