[k9870]

The DE thread got me going.We have the AR pistol, that should be sold with 2 manhole covers and a roll of duct tape. The taurus judge, which fails as a pistol and shotgun.

The AR pistol is not desighned for carry, has a barrel too short for any muzzle velocity, and not accuarte, evn with those stupid class 3 SBRs made from them. Then i see Sig making Sig556 pistols.

The taurus judge was hyped by gunwriters, but most shooters hate the thing. It's small rifling and long chambers give .45lc rounds terrible accuracy, shooters struggle to hit a man sized target at 25 yards. As a .410, the fact there is rifling and the barrels so short means it cant pattern at all. One gun review said "we could keep most of the pattern within an 18inch circle, at 5 yards! (like that's good?) Ive also seen where the .410 shotshells failed to pierce leather jackets and it does not have enough firepower to be used for SD.

In conclusion, both are useless mall ninja weapons.