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Old 11-30-2021, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MT2008 View Post
If these are really .300 Blackout guns, I wonder what that will do for the caliber's popularity and further adoption within the military?
Actually, the Noveskes are being procured in both .300 BLK and 5.56. That's what I meant when I said they were going Noveske across the board, which I admit I wasn't clear on. The two platforms are cheaper to maintain as a whole because the only thing that's different is the barrel.

But on the topic of .300 BKL in the US military, my sources have told me that it's being employed in situations where subguns like the MP5SD and MP7 previously would have been and that those platforms are in the process of being phased out.

The fact that they've gone back to direct impingement guns after helping to popularize the HK416 should also be the final nail in the coffin for those who believe that piston ARs are the future (what a change from 10 years ago!)
The DI system has seen continuous modification and improvement over the last 20 years and today runs pretty much on par with piston systems. But the 416 still for the moment has a chance at sticking around as the 416A5 is one of the carbines currently being tested by CAG, with the other two I've heard being an MCX variant and, allegedly, the Knight's SR-16 (there seems to be some contention on the latter, though).

Aside from the NSR rails, those upper receivers are also definitely Noveske Gen III billet uppers. On the other hand, the LRGs still appear to be standard forged lowers, not the Noveske Gen III billet lowers (which have a distinct flared magwell), so it seems clear that they didn't buy complete guns from Noveske. Also, most of the pics I've seen on message boards show that the blasters still have the HK416-style pistol grips or the Hogue rubber grips that DEVGRU has been known to use on their 416s. If I had to guess, the most likely explanation here is that DEV purchased complete Noveske Gen III 10.5" Shorty URGs and then retrofitted them to their existing LRGs (the same ones that used to host their 416 URGs).
None of the Noveskes I've seen in pics were on 416 lowers.

Also: The Insight NGAL doesn't seem to be standard yet - most of the pics I've seen show carbines fitted with the existing AN/PEQ-15s.
The NGAL seems to only be in use with JSOC and hasn't yet filtered down into the rest of SOCOM.

As for optics: The Nightforce ATACR doesn't seem to be standard yet, either; most of them are still using either the EOTech EXPS3-0 or Aimpoint Micro T-2s on ScalarWorks mounts.
Dedicated CQB optics will always have a place. I doubt the ATACR will replace everything, especially considering how much gear these members of these units buy out of their own pocket. It will just be another tool in the toolbox, much like how the SCAR ended up when it turnout to not be the "M4 killer" some thought (wanted?) it to be.
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