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Originally Posted by Excalibur
And as I said before, legalizing drugs won't solve the crime problem. Why do you think in the US, people are saying that is a stupid idea.
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Because they've been sold on the propaganda and people in general are afraid of changing the status quo. Most people (LE personnel excluded) who campaign and crusade against drugs are very ignorant of the realities of drug using behavior, preferring to view it as a singular monolith of depravity out to snatch their children.
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Sure taxing it would raise a lot of money and would surely make it hard for the organized crime to lose their hold on it, but saying you can go into a store and buy cocaine and meth because it's legal now is a very bad idea.
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If people want to wreck their lives, I'd rather the profits go to publicly held corporations or legitimately run private companies instead of criminal organizations that will use the money to corrupt cops, judges, and legislators, kill people, blow up cars, and enable violently sociopathic behavior amongst their associates.
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Have you seen what Coke can do you you on the first try? Meth? LSD? X? I've seen people die from THAT SHIT!
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Yes, people die from alot of things. It's part of living in a free society. We are all personally responsible for ourselves. People wreck their lives in many different ways; gambling, prostitutes, bad investments, not buying proper insurance. You can die the first time you go skydiving. You can die walking down the street. Life is dangerous.
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I knew people! I have friends in law enforcement and their lives destroyed by drug corruption!
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Sounds like they fucked up then. It happens. And when you say "drug corruption" do you mean they got involved with criminals and it didn't work out for them? If that's the case then I have no sympathy, corrupt cops are scum and deserve whatever they get coming to them, even more so than regular criminals.
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Don't tell me it is not addictive nor NOT particularly lethal!
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Not all drugs are the same.
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I don't care if it'll send you off to your "happy place" and then bring you back. Why don't you take a shot of heroin or some coke up your nose and tell ME how you fucking feel!
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Made my nose feel a bit tingly, felt a little lifted for a few minutes, then everyone around me became very annoying and I had a panic attack. Can't say I enjoyed it, but to each his own. That was 4 years ago, I haven't touched it since. Why am I not breaking into peoples houses or performing sexual favors? Oh right, I have the ability to make informed decisions about my own life and my own actions and I value my health and sanity over fleeting moments of chemical euphoria. If other people don't, that is not my problem.
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I don't want any drugs no addictive or otherwise to be legal.
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If you really believe that, then you've got a lot of molecules to outlaw, including almost every drug that is already a controlled substance, because unless it's on Schedule I, it's still legal under certain circumstances. Do you want to ban Vicodin and Oxycontin? What about Fentanyl? Fentanyl is far more dangerous than Heroin, being lethal in microgram amounts, but for patients in advanced stages of cancer it's manna from Heaven. Benzodiazepines like Xanax, Valium, and Ativan are very addictive, but absolutely necessary for people with severe anxiety and insomnia.
Do you want to ban dextromethorphan? (Robitussin) Do you want to ban dimenhydrinate? (Dramamine) What about nutmeg, should we ban nutmeg? Dust Off? Nitrous oxide? Gasoline?
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Originally Posted by Excalibur
It's already illegal to smoke in bars and a lot of restaurants and college campus. They can't can't get rid of something that is already so wide spread and legal for decades.
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How can you actually believe this statement and the previous statement? That's quite a blatant case of cognitive dissonance. MDMA is not allowed even though it is neither addictive nor very lethal (a majority of deaths are caused by overexertion or toxic impurities, not an overdose of the MDMA molecule) but it's perfectly acceptable for Joe Citizen to drink himself into a coma because, why the hell not, everybody's doing it?
The argument that you can't ban tobacco and alcohol because "They can't can't get rid of something that is already so wide spread and legal for decades." doesn't hold up in against history. Drugs being illegal is a very recent phenomenon. The use of opium, coca, cannabis, ephedra, psylocibin, and DMT go back just as far as alcohol, millenia into prehistory. And still today the use of drugs is far more widespread and popular than anyone really wants to admit. It was never not widespread. Of all the factors that lead to decreased drug use in populations, legislation and enforcement is the least relevant.