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Old 07-21-2011, 05:43 AM
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First of all, "shit" has been used a lot on network television in the last few years and is more or less acceptable nowadays given the usage. I cite several South Park episodes, Several Comedy Central stand up programs, Nip Tuck, NCIS as you've said and I few others I can't remember. Furthermore, Comedy Central further pushes the envelope by using "fuck" during their later night programming (usually after 1 AM or so), as well as other otherwise censored words or phrases.

I bring this up for two reasons, one because the swearing standard is slowly coming down around us (yes you said Prime Time, but TV is TV all day more or less with regard to censorship), and two because based on that, TV allows us to say the words being disputed which are pretty much "shit", "fuck" and "asshole" at this point.

Furthermore this is a site based on movies, so why not just go by movie rating standards instead? If your answer is "because we just can't allow "shit", "fuck" and "asshole" on the site and retain professional nature" I must retort and say that is false. I don't think members should curse profusely, perhaps at all, on the site, but you aren't acknowledging my argument that what we're attempting to censor are quotes that are not ours and don't reflect us. And to dig up an argument already used, IMDB doesn't censor their quotes (granted they aren't on the front page) and they're a pretty credible site. We aren't them nor do we have their visitorbase, but that doesn't mean we have to water down because a few high profile people might frown upon us because of some idea that small sites must adhere to more strict standards of censoring content, not the people on here, they should hold their tongues, I agree with that, but the content we allow on the site like the quotes. Don't forget, again, despite this place not being our playground, that this is on a playground sort of medium, the internet, and that there are expectations of this medium as well, as in there being more leniency of content on here.

I just feel like there's a policy hole in posting censored quotes. If we're a database for people to look for movie guns, the quotes are unnecessary and they should be gone, period. If not, then we are a site about movies as well as guns and therefore we should take on more of a lax approach, especially given this is the internet and a site we are compared to does the same. Just as well, even if swearing is on the site and someone high profile does view the site, do you honestly think they will discount the entire site because of some visible profanity in a quote?
You certainly seem to have vested a lot of your personal capital in this argument. The only thing I KNOW for a fact is that IMFDB will not become a profanity free for all. We are NOT like IMDB in many more ways than you mentioned (a) we don't moderate ALL items coming in ... THEY DO. If we had that sort of filter, we could go on a case by case basis but we don't. (b) we have too many kids and trolls creating trouble because of the Wiki format, Bunni did a great thing back in 2007, right now we seem to be a victim of our own success (c) we tend to attract too many people who fixate on certain things and just won't let it go (just looking at some of the VG arguments makes my head hurt). (d) we WILL always piss off someone. I remember putting my foot down against manga and books and I still got a boat load of grief about it from angry members. And most members don't see how many foreign members throughout the years complain about IMFDB being an American oriented site (with our standards, protocols, etc). That being said, I really have nothing else to say.
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