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k9870 05-29-2009 04:44 PM

Stupidest Guns used in Movies
 
Well, wondering what you think are the stupidest guns to use in a movie. Weve all seen cops with Desert Eagles and 1911s in ankle holsters. Yesterday I saw Terminator and they all carry 5.56mm carbines, when a .308AP round would be way more effective. In predator Jesse The Gubanatorial Body Ventura used a minigun as a personal weapon. Wondering what you think may be the dumbest un ever to be used in a movie, or worst mistakes.

Winchester 05-29-2009 09:22 PM

well in Terminator's defense, its the future and they are staying at a military base, who uses 5.56.

Spartan198 05-29-2009 10:01 PM

The handheld miniguns to me (at least in Jesse Ventura's case) aren't necessarily dumb, just over-exaggerated for entertainment purposes. But a killer cyborg from 2029 more than likely wouldn't have much difficulty carrying and firing one.
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Originally Posted by Winchester (Post 3240)
well in Terminator's defense, its the future and they are staying at a military base, who uses 5.56.

Not to mention they don't really have the luxury to be picky about what they use, considering machines dominate the world and humanity is in hiding. I seriously doubt they've got factories pumping out weapons and ammo for them. That, and 5.56 seemed to be working pretty well for them.

Clutch 05-29-2009 10:10 PM

I debated for some time as to how to answer this question...only to realize that this is an exceptionally stupid question.

There really are NO stupid guns that have ever been used in movies. Not even the Desert Eagle, as painfully overused as that is. Now, HOW it's used...that's the big question. The M1911A1's an awesome gun, but you give it to Steven Seagal in any one of his movies after 2001, and he can make even that gun look dumb. On the flip side, a silenced Ruger Mk. II might not seem like much, but the right movie with the right circumstances (1995's Assassins) can make me want to own that gun.

It don't take much to make any gun, even one you are madly in love with, look undesirable and jackass-worthy. Just give it to...well, a jackass, and film it.

Spartan198 05-29-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Clutch (Post 3242)
I debated for some time as to how to answer this question...only to realize that this is an exceptionally stupid question.

There really are NO stupid guns that have ever been used in movies. Not even the Desert Eagle, as painfully overused as that is. Now, HOW it's used...that's the big question. The M1911A1's an awesome gun, but you give it to Steven Seagal in any one of his movies after 2001, and he can make even that gun look dumb. On the flip side, a silenced Ruger Mk. II might not seem like much, but the right movie with the right circumstances (1995's Assassins) can make me want to own that gun.

It don't take much to make any gun, even one you are madly in love with, look undesirable and jackass-worthy. Just give it to...well, a jackass, and film it.

Well said. :)

k9870 05-29-2009 10:23 PM

In the first terminator they had lazers and G3s. The new one 556, which is shown just bouncing off. A full sized gun as a BUG or held in ankle holsters seems stupid. A DEAG used by cops or military? Stupid. Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted. A tactical 500 mag? Okay punisher...

Clutch 05-29-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 3245)
In the first terminator they had lazers and G3s. The new one 556, which is shown just bouncing off. A full sized gun as a BUG or held in ankle holsters seems stupid. A DEAG used by cops or military? Stupid. Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted. A tactical 500 mag? Okay punisher...

All comes back to my point - no stupid guns, just STUPID USES FOR GUNS...

Besides, I wouldn't mind owning a couple of the Desert Eagles I've ever seen in movies (Predator 2 comes to mind...).

As for Terminator Salvation, a few things. One, the movie's set in 2018. Therefore, the assumption can be made that the plasma weapons and all that jazz hadn't quite been perfected yet. Two, AP rounds come in 5.56mm too. The movie may have did a poor job depicting that, but if I were John Connor, I'd have so much armor-piercing ordanance on me that my boots could have punched through 1/4 inch steel plates. Three, the Terminator he shot was significantly weakened (and rightfully so, considering it looks like he was a victim of a few strafes from one of those A-10s). You pound away at something long enough, and eventually you'll break through it...as was evidenced by the T-600 that attacked him after the base self-destructed. He needed about 30 rounds from a door-mounted M60 to drop THAT one (oh, by the way, there's your 7.62x51mm right there).

Gunmaster45 05-30-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 3245)
Dirty Harry firing a harpoon offhand? Theres a reason there mounted.

Well, Callahan's gun had been stolen by the killer, so he needed a weapon fast. The powerful harpoon was handy so he grabbed it and killed the guy with it. If he had fired it from the mount it was on, he likely would have missed (they showed the harpoon was very inaccurate at the start of the film). So while it isn't the most tactically efficient weapon, it did what it needed to at the time. "You're out of bullets... and you know what that means? You're shit out of luck." Good stuff.

k9870 05-30-2009 01:07 AM

Wondering about the recoil on that though.....it can launch a whale killing projectile, im guessing it hurts on both ends.

Gunmaster45 05-30-2009 01:10 AM

I've shot a hand held harpoon before used for killing porpoise sized animals, and it was pretty stout. I'm sure that harpoon had some kick, but Dirty Harry is a Magnum kind of guy, he can handle it.


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