Well the fact that most people don't actually say 9x19mm. They say 9mm, or a 10mm cause it's easy and it's automatically a handgun round because of the context. It's the same with rifle caliber where we say 5.56mm. I mean if you are going with numbers just comparing the first number of course the number 5 is smaller than 10. A lot of time, people forget about the second number that comes after the X.

In Aliens, they don't call it just a machine gun or even a smg. They called it a "rifle" so we could assume it's rifle caliber and 10mm is big, but since it's caseless, it shouldn't be a problem. Not to mention the 20mm pump action grenade launcher with grenades that can deliver a hell of a bang

I was actually referring to rifles that fired pistol cartridges. Lever actions and carbines. It's not like it's never happened before.

Cartridges really shouldn't even be referred to as "n.nn mm x nn mm". Most have some sort of designation. The 7.62x39mm should actually be referred to as the "7.62mm M43".

I've never heard anyone refer to the Russia round by that designation outside a tech book. Everyone I've come across always say the full number.


And I just realize that the title of this thread. It's not M41A, it's M41A1.

[quote=Excalibur;21780]I've never heard anyone refer to the Russia round by that designation outside a tech book. Everyone I've come across always say the full number.


Im going to have to agree with the above quote. I have always seen it written in full number. For example there are alot of 9mm out their...so is it 9x18 or 9x19 or could it be a 9x23. So you kind of need all the information.

[quote=Spades of Columbia;21788]Aren't there multiple cartridges that are 9x23? Bergmann-Bayard, Largo, IMI?

Sure, but the most common 9mm round is the 9x19.

Welly yeah but my point was even when you say "9 x n mm" instead of just "9mm" it's still not specific enough.

You don't need to be specific unless you have to be. If I go to a gun store and ask for a 9mm handgun, the clerk would point to almost every single gun under the counter. There just aren't a lot of guns in common use that fires other 9mm type rounds