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Yournamehere 04-26-2017 05:31 AM

My Colt AR Builds To Date/ Post Your Tac-Rifles!
 
I've hit another milestone with regard to my two rifle builds and I've been sharing them across the net, so I figure now would be a good time to post them here too.

http://i.imgur.com/SpxtwhF.jpg

This is my early 2000s/Invasion of Iraq M4A1 Carbine build. While not "retro" by arfcom standards, it's definitely a dated build. It's a boring ass M4A1 build with a SOCOM barrel, Knights Armament RAS and N1 CAR Stock, with a Matech Rear Sight, a Gen 2 "Fat Body" Surefire M951 with SW02 Tailcap, and an Aimpoint Comp M2/M68 CCO. I think people take this setup for granted, as it is really the genesis of the high tech AR world we know and love today. It's the first generation of contemporary durable electronic optics and lights, which has also seen significant action in the GWOT. Everyone is really into rifles that are pre-red dot, but this is the father of all we know as "tacticool" with a legitimate service record to boot. It helps that videogames meme'd this rifle really hard too. The only part I'm missing for the build is the Side Sling Swivel that mounts under the Front Sight Base. The worst part is that I have the one from the upper, but the rollpins are stuck in really hard and I can't tap them out to install it.

http://i.imgur.com/KDKTCw6.jpg

And this is my long awaited SBR build. I got my Form 1 for my first LE6920SOCOM back on February 14th this year, so I basically got married to it on Valentines Day, how cute. It's loosely inspired by the MK18 Mod 1/Block II Build, but I've done some things that are not to that spec. For the general upper, the MK18 RIS II is Black and not FDE, and the barrel is a SOCOM I profile and not a standard Government profile. For rail accessories, it has Troy Folding Battlesights, HK Front and Standard Rear, a Gear Sector QD Swivel Mount to go with the Noveske QD End Plate, Knights Armament Rail Covers, and a Tango Down QD Vertical Foregrip. The electronics are an Aimpoint Comp M4s with the stock QRP2 Mount, and a Surefire X300UB. I'm really liking the light for a carbine, very simple setup and very bright. If my Form 4s ever come back I will also be getting a QD suppressor for it for double stamp cred.

And hey, why don't we just have a good old fashioned post your rifles thread? Lets see what everyone else has in the tacticool department.

AdAstra2009 04-29-2017 12:00 PM

Looks good though m4 carbine clone could use an inventory number scribbled on the buttstock and a an/peq2. I'll post something of mine once I take some better pics, they'd look terrible next to your studio setup.

Yournamehere 04-30-2017 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 43540)
Looks good though m4 carbine clone could use an inventory number scribbled on the buttstock and a an/peq2. I'll post something of mine once I take some better pics, they'd look terrible next to your studio setup.

As much as I would like to take a blue pen marker to the N1 stock, which sells for over 100 dollars in good condition, I had to pass. As for a PEQ-2, if I could find one, I would buy it. I should get some more lights for my table too, as the "studio" is too small for rifles, which is why these pictures look a bit dark.

Can't wait to see everyone else's stuff.

S&Wshooter 05-01-2017 02:03 AM

My AR is basically a typical (kind of, it's left handed) 2007-2008 M4gery, complete with quadrail, cheap foregrip, and Blackhawk pistol grip. Am I tactical enough? Can I oper8 now?


https://i.gyazo.com/7621d7c957b66e18...a12f3ad5dd.png

Excalibur 05-02-2017 02:31 PM

I'll send a photo of mine later on. I'm waiting on a new upper to change it up. right now it's still a S&W M&P Sport, the first gen version at its core. But now I have changed pretty much everything. Magpul SL pistol grip, SL handguard, BCM gunfighter stock, has an Inforce WML, a Holosun red dot. A BCM H Carbine buffer.

I'm planning to build my first AR pistol. Look at at 10.5 to 12.5 in barrel, flat top of course, and thinking about the SB Tactical PDW brace

AdAstra2009 05-03-2017 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 43541)
As much as I would like to take a blue pen marker to the N1 stock, which sells for over 100 dollars in good condition, I had to pass. As for a PEQ-2, if I could find one, I would buy it. I should get some more lights for my table too, as the "studio" is too small for rifles, which is why these pictures look a bit dark.

Can't wait to see everyone else's stuff.

Oh yeah almost forgot you need to have your sensitive items tethered to the rifle with gutted and burnt 550 cord. I would also suggest moving the entry light to the right side rail so you can move the vertical fore-grip more to the center. With a vertical fore grip that far to the rear you might as well just grip onto the magwell.

Yournamehere 05-03-2017 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009 (Post 43547)
Oh yeah almost forgot you need to have your sensitive items tethered to the rifle with gutted and burnt 550 cord. I would also suggest moving the entry light to the right side rail so you can move the vertical fore-grip more to the center. With a vertical fore grip that far to the rear you might as well just grip onto the magwell.

The paracord sounds cool. I've thought about doing that but I haven't found a resource that demonstrates how to tie it properly. As for the light, the thing is so heavy that having it on the right sight of the rifle really messes with the balance. I also like having the vert grip behind it because it makes actuating the light easier, as I can use my index finger knuckle to turn it on and off. I tried magwell against the vert grip too, and believe it or not, the couple inches forward the vert grip gives does make a difference in overall handling, or at least I feel like it does.

Excalibur 05-03-2017 01:30 PM

I have seen set up like this so it's not completely inaccurate of the period you're trying to emulate. But despite the light potentially messing with the balance, you can just get a smaller light, mount it to the right and add a pressure switch for it. Don't forget excessive tape on it.

Yournamehere 05-04-2017 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43549)
I have seen set up like this so it's not completely inaccurate of the period you're trying to emulate. But despite the light potentially messing with the balance, you can just get a smaller light, mount it to the right and add a pressure switch for it. Don't forget excessive tape on it.

There aren't really any smaller lights from the early stages of Iraq that I could find. Most lights were the Gen 2 M951/M952 or the Gen 2 and 3 M961/M962. I actually have an M962 in a box for another older clone build. That thing is basically the size of a lightsaber hilt, or a D cell Maglite that went on a diet and got skinny. In the later years you'll see Insight pistol lights on quad rails and some of those Surefire M900V vert grip lights but those can get a bit pricey, and their performance is eh, even not considering contemporary light standards.

M951s are cool though in that you can get LED drop ins for them to give them competitive brightness even by today's standards. That one in the pic as a Malkoff M61 which gives the light 325 lumens for 1.5 hours. Granted that's half as efficient as an M300 Scout which does about that with one battery instead of two, but it puts out the lumen count which is nice. I may just put the old P60 lamp back in there just to be true to the times, though.

Spartan198 05-04-2017 05:37 AM

I don't have a fancy AR to post, but I always wanted an AR6721 (or similar 16" HB carbine) configured like the one on the box art of Ghost Recon: Island Thunder.

https://www.lukiegames.com/assets/im...der-110214.jpg

Excalibur 05-04-2017 01:46 PM

So you want the carrying handle still attached with an ACOG on it? I think the reason why that set up existed is because of the period it was in with flat top ARs only just starting to become the norm and accessories for ARs account for the carrying handle.

Yournamehere 05-04-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43556)
So you want the carrying handle still attached with an ACOG on it? I think the reason why that set up existed is because of the period it was in with flat top ARs only just starting to become the norm and accessories for ARs account for the carrying handle.

Oddly enough, the rifle in the cover artwork has a detachable carry handle. There's a reason for that, though. If you decide to use a carry handle, you have your standard iron sights to use as well as the ACOG and it's iron sights if you want. The only issue is that there's a ridiculous amount of height over bore and parallax margin with the optic in that configuration.

I toyed with getting an ACOG TA01NSN, but even as the cheaper alternative to the TA31RCO, it's still expensive, even on eBay.

Excalibur 05-04-2017 10:13 PM

They did this in the 2003 SWAT movie. Looking back, I wondered why? I think nowadays, if you want a sights to close range alongside a long range scope, you can doctor a red dot on top of an ACOG or scope or offset sights.

Spartan198 05-07-2017 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43559)
They did this in the 2003 SWAT movie. Looking back, I wondered why? I think nowadays, if you want a sights to close range alongside a long range scope, you can doctor a red dot on top of an ACOG or scope or offset sights.

The weapons in the movie were configured after what actual LAPD SWAT used at the time and 2003 was when the accessory market had really only started to take off. Even ACOGs were relatively new at the time, with the military only beginning to use them on a large scale in or around 2000. In fact, the ACOG was originally purpose-built to affix to carry handles. At that time, piggybacking optics had yet to come into fashion. A story I heard (not sure if it's true or not) was that Trijicon started making ACOG/red dot combos after seeing a soldier's ACOG that he had simply glued a red dot sight on top of.

The configuration is a bit dated today with all the multi-magnification, piggyback, and offset options, but like fixed carry handles and the old triangular A1 handguards, it still has its charms.

commando552 05-07-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43561)
The weapons in the movie were configured after what actual LAPD SWAT used at the time and 2003 was when the accessory market had really only started to take off. Even ACOGs were relatively new at the time, with the military only beginning to use them on a large scale in or around 2000. In fact, the ACOG was originally purpose-built to affix to carry handles. At that time, piggybacking optics had yet to come into fashion. A story I heard (not sure if it's true or not) was that Trijicon started making ACOG/red dot combos after seeing a soldier's ACOG that he had simply glued a red dot sight on top of.

The configuration is a bit dated today with all the multi-magnification, piggyback, and offset options, but like fixed carry handles and the old triangular A1 handguards, it still has its charms.

In 2003 there were mounts for fitting Docters to ACOGs made by KAC, but it was still an experimental thing and not really done by anybody yet on a large scale. ACOGs do have iron sights, but they are kind of terrible only being useful at very short ranges due to the massive aperture and post and terrible sight radius. Trijicon would not make their own red dot and ACOG mounts until 2007.

According to the official Trijicon history page, ACOGs were officially adopted by the US Special Forces in 1995, the USMC in 2004, and the US army in 2007. Apparently the first people to use them were GSG9 who started fitting them to SG550s in 1993.

Excalibur 05-08-2017 01:24 PM

So if ACOG didn't have doctor red dot mounts until 2007, does that mean the doctor mounts we saw in The Lone Survivor is anachronistic?

commando552 05-08-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43565)
So if ACOG didn't have doctor red dot mounts until 2007, does that mean the doctor mounts we saw in The Lone Survivor is anachronistic?

Docter sights fitted to ACOGs with non-trijicon mounts were around back to around 2003-ish. What didn't come out until 2007 was the Trijicon RedDot, their own mini reflex sight for mounting onto ACOGs. In 2005 you could get Docters mounted on ACOGs so this isn't necessarily anachronistic. All that being said, I believe that the sights that they were actually using on their ACOGs were JPoints with those mounts with the metal protective wings (this can be seen on Danny Dietz's Wikipedia page image). The JPoint mounts were made in 2002 at the request of FBI HRT I believe. Trivia note, the Trijicon RedDot released in 2007 is just a licensed copy of the JPoint that costs more money.

Excalibur 05-12-2017 11:31 PM

Alright guys, this is what my current go to rifle looks like. It's a Smith & Wesson M&P 15. One of the early ones when they first came out but I've since put a bunch of other stuff on it.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...512_182705.jpg

mpe2010 05-13-2017 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43569)
Alright guys, this is what my current go to rifle looks like. It's a Smith & Wesson M&P 15. One of the early ones when they first came out but I've since put a bunch of other stuff on it.

How has that holosun treated you? ive been thinking about getting one for a while

Excalibur 05-15-2017 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mpe2010 (Post 43570)
How has that holosun treated you? ive been thinking about getting one for a while

For the price, it works. I plan to get a Primary Arms to replace it. I hear despite being made by the same company, it's reported to be better. I don't plan on using this optic for anything but point and shoot at close ranges under 50.

When I got this, I noticed it was so far off zero that my iron sights hit better at 50 yards.

There's the mindset that you should spend as much money as you've spent on your rifle for an optic because it's part of the tools that's meant to protect your life and if you have a budget one, it'll fail more often than the expensive ones like Aimpoint. So in the future, I'll be investing in the more expensive options.

S&Wshooter 05-25-2017 05:22 AM

I want to make one of those franken-CARs from Black Hawk Down or Blood Diamond, probably won't. Anyone that knows ARs want to lay out what parts I'd need?

AdAstra2009 05-29-2017 09:00 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4227/3...bf788ff2_k.jpg
IWI Tavor w/Aimpoint CompM4s, TLR-1 HL, and Surefire 60 rounder.

Excalibur 05-30-2017 05:26 PM

I've just finished customizing my Scorpion EVO. New charging handle, trigger and selector switch

Rockwolf66 06-12-2017 03:25 AM

I need to get a picture of my PTR91 FR.

Hopefully the local gunsmith gets off his fat ass and gets me the parts I paid him to order for me off HKparts back in January.

Thankfully since then a new gunshop has opened up and they are trying to get me the parts to build a PSA KS-47 pistol. I got the lower and now I need an upper.

Excalibur 06-12-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 43615)
Thankfully since then a new gunshop has opened up and they are trying to get me the parts to build a PSA KS-47 pistol. I got the lower and now I need an upper.

I'm actually building an AR pistol using PSA parts mostly. Though I can get any lower really locally than wait for a transfer. The single most expensive part really would be the PDW style brace from SB tactical. Depending on which upper I'm getting, it'll be about the same price.

Spartan198 06-16-2017 02:33 PM

Since this is an AR-15 question, I'll just tack it onto this thread instead of creating a new one.

Can anyone ID this muzzle device?

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...psbeobjiig.jpg

The closest approximate match I've found is the PWS FSC556, but it doesn't totally match as the ports in the above pic seem to be square while the ones on the PWS are ... whatever you'd call that shape.

Excalibur 06-27-2017 09:11 PM

So my budget AR pistol build is coming along nicely. So far, I've spent about 450ish on it.

Right now, it's a standard carbine length gas with a 10.5 in barrel.

Once I've tested it a few times, it's going to be my trunk gun that I take for long trips across town, to work, etc and only to be taken out when SHTF

S&Wshooter 06-27-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43642)
only to be taken out when a junkie opens up my barely locked trunk to sell it


ur gun gon get got

Excalibur 06-28-2017 03:16 AM

You...seriously with that comment? We suddenly turned into Facebook here, dude?

So unless I go to an actual bad part of town where I know the moment I leave it, crackheads will immediately swarm me...to steal the radio, my rims and my dash cam...you think because I leave an expensive piece of equipment in my car without considering to secure it better like a lot of people do, that it'll get instantly stolen by a random junkie who 1. doesn't know I have something expensive in it, and 2. I live/work in a neighborhood that actually is so shitty, that this happens and enough to warrant your comment that's not even a full on sentence...and worse, you took my line and redid it in an attempt to make me sound stupid...

S&Wshooter 07-01-2017 12:22 AM

Dude we all know you live in a crackhouse c'mon ;^)

S&Wshooter 07-01-2017 12:26 AM

I need to get a better stock for my AR, but I'm basically torn between making my current rifle (left handed with proprietary parts, etc) as comfy as possible or saving up, building a good right handed rifle (not a retro like I want to do, I honestly will probably never make one), and making it PERFECT. I don't really NEED the rifle to be left handed, since I've shot thousands and thousands of rounds through a stock Colt AR no problems, and I'd like to be able to do whatever I want rather than being constrained to whatever the leftie receiver on the one I have can do

Excalibur 07-03-2017 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 43654)
Dude we all know you live in a crackhouse c'mon ;^)

Don't you dis my house after seeing my awesome Cadillac I just paid more than my home for

S&Wshooter 07-07-2017 07:13 PM

Bitch you ain't even got no alligatah seats in der

Excalibur 07-15-2017 09:35 PM

Back on topic, brothers.

Just finished the basic look of my budget pistol build. I'll send a pic when I have it the way I want it to be. So far, I've spent 450 on it.

Spartan198 07-16-2017 12:58 AM

Photobucket is getting greedy and restricting third-party linking to paid users. Try Imgur instead.

https://imgur.com/

Excalibur 07-17-2017 12:02 PM

http://i.imgur.com/VCgyLYN.jpg
This is what my new AR looks now


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