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k9870 04-07-2009 02:14 AM

Guns you want to see made.
 
Using existing technology, no phased 40wt plasma guns.

I'll go first.

Take a standard stock (no pistol grip) hogue coated for comfort, And it's a semiauto 7.62x25 tokarev, with Stainless barrel and action to make it usable with commie surplus crap, peep sights, and ability to take ppsh drums.
The ultimate plinker.

Your turn.

Gunmaster45 04-07-2009 02:26 AM

I don't know how but I'm going to try and build this with photoshop.

k9870 04-07-2009 02:27 AM

I look forward to seeing it. Like a modified, hogue ppsh with peep sights.

Gunmaster45 04-07-2009 04:09 AM

Aside from the barrel not being stainless, here's what I built (I know it is awful):

http://i42.tinypic.com/289j0v4.jpg

I don't think it is at all what you expected XD

Gunmaster45 04-07-2009 04:11 AM

I took what you said about it being a Tokarev wrong, I thought you actually wanted a TT-33. I should have built the gun off the PPSh, that would have been a LOT easier. This edit to a LONG time btw.

Cutaway 04-07-2009 12:21 PM

Rotary barrel GPMG:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/818/minigunj.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1...equence1ih.jpg

k9870 04-07-2009 01:46 PM

It would be like a ppsh/10/22

Id want the large cap drum, and 762x25 caliber, stainless, and be modular so user could change parts at will. Hogue may be ugly but confortable to shoot, and stainless you can shoot dime-a-round commie milsurp. Ability to accept different mags (like a sub-2000) would be a plus.

MT2008 04-07-2009 06:11 PM

Mine are a little more modest:

(1.) I'd like to see somebody make a pistol that's chambered for the 5.7x28mm cartridge that's a bit smaller (in barrel length/grip height) than the FN Five-Seven.
(2.) An assault rifle that can be modified as either a bullpup or standard layout by having part of the receiver and magazine well movable to either the front or rear. (I think somebody already proposed this)

MT2008 04-07-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45 (Post 1616)
Aside from the barrel not being stainless, here's what I built (I know it is awful):

http://i42.tinypic.com/289j0v4.jpg

I don't think it is at all what you expected XD

Tokarev carbine? Would it be select-fire?

k9870 04-07-2009 07:17 PM

Is that an anschutz sporter stock as a forend and a 93R front grip in front of the drum?

Gunmaster45 04-07-2009 09:14 PM

I doubt anyone could even hold this monster. I used a C-96 Carbine forend and extended it more with the clone brush. I also wrapped a Hogue stock around the back end and reshaped it to work better. I put the 93R forgrip in the front so there's something to grip the gun by with your fingers, maybe it could function as a grip safety. I'd say it is selective fire, or else it'd take a long time to unload the drum mag.

I made the extractor stainless steel to increase reliability. And I reused the star on the grip and raised it higher. It took a long time but I'm not proud of it...

k9870 04-07-2009 10:21 PM

I wish I had photoshop, time to try this on paint lol.

k9870 04-07-2009 10:58 PM

1 Attachment(s)
http://www.imfdb.org/forum/attachmen...3&d=1239145076

Here it is

Gunmaster45 04-07-2009 11:56 PM

You should consider some slight modifications. Move the magazine further back. The PPSh's magazine is forward more because it is open bolt. This gun looks closed bolt. Plus if you want a good plinker, open bolt is going to make accuracy as joke.

In my opinion, just buy a Ruger 10/22, buy a 50 round magazine or drum, add a peep sight and you've got a cheap plinker, very similair to this gun. Except it doesn't fire crap ammo, .22s are cheaper than dirt (I never got that expression, dirt's pretty expensive anymore)

k9870 04-08-2009 12:09 AM

The idea is to not be a .22, i plink with my savage a lot but I often wish I could plink with a loud, hard hitting round, and the hot tokarev round is moving, look at the velocity on it! It would be fun to use this when .22s aren't cutting it.

Gunmaster45 04-08-2009 02:07 AM

I guess I understand but why make more noise just so you can hit a target harder? Are those hostile metal plates not being penetrated or something?

Anyway, maybe a CZ-52 with a shoulder stock and 16" barrel would do it.
I have those for my 1911, but ammo's too expensive to plink with.

Krel 04-08-2009 10:00 PM

I would like to see the Randall line of left-handed Government model pistol, and the variants revived.

David.

k9870 04-08-2009 10:08 PM

I'm guesisng other people have ideas to photoshop out

Cutaway 04-09-2009 09:43 PM

"Minigun" Upper Reciever for AR15/M16s derivatives using Webley-Fosbery action to rotate barrels:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3...minigungr4.jpg

Gunmaster45 04-09-2009 10:09 PM

The ACOG is too high to aim with, you wouldn't be aiming correctly everytime because you don't have a stock to rest on.

k9870 04-10-2009 12:08 AM

I never complain about weight on a rifle, Id happily carry an m14, but tthat must handle like a couple cinder blocks glued together. Must be well heavvvvy, which the AR-15s only advantage was its lightweight....

k9870 04-10-2009 09:43 PM

Someone on another forum said he wants a 7.62x39 revovler, would that be insane or what?

Alcatrazz 04-11-2009 07:42 PM

I'd like to see an Armalite AR-7 without a stock, a cut down barrel, and a tube magazine like on the Winchester lever action rifles. Oh, and a M16 with a Calico magazine.

Cutaway 04-11-2009 07:47 PM

A better quality one of these:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4...ershotgal6.jpg

McSwan 08-05-2010 11:43 PM

Just bringing this thread to life using this websight: http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/index.php

Here is a cool gun idea.
http://thumb11.webshots.net/t/71/171...1fqzbvs_th.jpg

PersonOfInterest 08-06-2010 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcatrazz (Post 1803)
Oh, and a M16 with a Calico magazine.

I'd heard somewhere that the Chinese made one of these with a 90 round capacity.

PersonOfInterest 08-06-2010 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 1772)
Someone on another forum said he wants a 7.62x39 revovler, would that be insane or what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfeifer...press_revolver

http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200902/0...46d1455968.jpg

http://www.funis2cool.com/wp-content...evolver-01.jpg

http://www.funis2cool.com/wp-content...evolver-05.jpg

Swordfish941 08-06-2010 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 16471)

http://pds10.egloos.com/pds/200902/0...46d1455968.jpg

[img]http://www.funis2cool.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05

Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum; Eat you heart out.

Spartan198 08-06-2010 01:46 AM

I'd like to see a civilian version of the Colt SCAR Light put into production.

http://www.gunzone.com/index_ColtLE1020.jpg
http://www.defensereview.com/stories...G-SAW_M203.jpg

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 03:38 AM

S&W Model 3 in .38 special/ .357 magnum that doesn't cost greater than or equal to used car

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 03:40 AM

Also, a semi automatic MP5

Nyles 08-06-2010 03:49 AM

I don't think the S&W No.3 frame will accomodate a round as long as the .357. And the old barrel latch definately wouldn't stand up to the pressure, they're not super strong guns.

PersonOfInterest 08-06-2010 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s&wshooter (Post 16476)
also, a semi automatic mp5

hk94? Mp10?

Excalibur 08-06-2010 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 16475)
S&W Model 3 in .38 special/ .357 magnum that doesn't cost greater than or equal to used car

Seriously? A .357 Magnum on a break action revolver? The .38 sure.

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 16479)
hk94? Mp10?

No, a real MP5, but semi instead of full/burst

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyles (Post 16478)
I don't think the S&W No.3 frame will accomodate a round as long as the .357. And the old barrel latch definately wouldn't stand up to the pressure, they're not super strong guns.

Really? Damn.

Nyles 08-06-2010 04:33 AM

Well, as you all know new guns don't really excite me much, but I was thinking about some guns that were almcould have been made I wish they had.

Colt 1911 in .41 ACP - JMB was designing a .41 caliber version of the 1902 Auto, but the round was too much for the design, and by the time they figured out the solution the US Army had decided they wanted a .45 so the whole project was abandoned. If they'd kept doing with it and came out with a .41 ACP loaded somewhere near .38 Super levels, that could have been a pretty neat gun.

Colt 1911 in 7.63mm Mauser - Preferably with a tangent sight and attachable stock - basically similar to a Star Model A Pistol Carbine without the extended barrel. Might have sold well in Europe and Asia.

Steyr 1912 in 7.63mm Mauser - Likely have to beef up the design a little, but it sure would be a cool gun. And the 1912 was a good design that might have sold better if it chambered a more common round.

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 04:34 AM

Mass production of the H&K P7M7

Nyles 08-06-2010 04:36 AM

Yeah, the length of the cartridge in a top-break gun is limited by the arc it has to travel to open - that's why the Schofield couldn't chamber .45 Colt rounds (and the reproductions had to be redesigned so it could). Same reason that the Brits went to .38 S&W instead of .38 Special when they decided they wanted a .38.

And espescially the barrel-mounted latch on the No.3 was quite weak - if you ever examine when you notice there's not actually all that much holding them together. The frame mounted latch on a Schofield (which is very similar to a Webley stirrup lock) is stronger, but even a Webley can't stand up to .45 ACP pressures, let alone .357 Mag.

S&Wshooter 08-06-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyles (Post 16488)
Yeah, the length of the cartridge in a top-break gun is limited by the arc it has to travel to open - that's why the Schofield couldn't chamber .45 Colt rounds (and the reproductions had to be redesigned so it could). Same reason that the Brits went to .38 S&W instead of .38 Special when they decided they wanted a .38.

And espescially the barrel-mounted latch on the No.3 was quite weak - if you ever examine when you notice there's not actually all that much holding them together. The frame mounted latch on a Schofield (which is very similar to a Webley stirrup lock) is stronger, but even a Webley can't stand up to .45 ACP pressures, let alone .357 Mag.

Makes sense. I just want a Model 3 chambered in a relatively easy to find cartridge


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