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MoviePropMaster2008 02-08-2013 08:19 AM

California trying to be the most Draconian on guns....
 
Not that I would support such garbage even if there were an EXEMPTION on movie weapons, apparently NONE of these bills DO exempt movie weapons, so good bye guns in movies filmed in CA if these bills pass.

Prepare for everything to be Airsoft and 'mime' fire ....:mad:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/c...-laws-18433972

" Among the measures is one that would outlaw the future sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. The restriction would prevent quick reloading by requiring bullets to be loaded one at a time." (my note: even bolt action rifles have 5 round magazines. Will they be restricted to ONE round mags?)


"The legislation also would ban possession of magazines holding more than 10 bullets, even by those who now own them legally."

commando552 02-08-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 37921)
(my note: even bolt action rifles have 5 round magazines. Will they be restricted to ONE round mags?)

I'm assuming they mean loading them one at a time into the magazine, not into the chamber. I wonder if they will try and ban stripper clips...

Evil Tim 02-08-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 37921)
"The legislation also would ban possession of magazines holding more than 10 bullets, even by those who now own them legally."

Well, you could point out that a 30-round magazine of blanks holds exactly zero bullets?

Excalibur 02-08-2013 07:14 PM

I'm really glad I live in Indiana. The worse we are getting are people trying to sneak in bills of laws that are already in effect because they don't research.

BlackIce_GTS 02-08-2013 07:56 PM

I live near Vancouver and am tempted to say 'hell yes, give us all your action movie dollars!'
That's horrible though. And they're going to ban the Judge, because... 'OMG, shotgun shells, scary!' or something.
(spoiler: they aren't. Unless you're a snake.)

funkychinaman 02-08-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackIce_GTS (Post 37941)
I live near Vancouver and am tempted to say 'hell yes, give us all your action movie dollars!'
That's horrible though. And they're going to ban the Judge, because... 'OMG, shotgun shells, scary!' or something.
(spoiler: they aren't. Unless you're a snake.)

Losing filming to Canada has been going on for years, but losing filming to Canada because they have less draconian gun control should be a wake-up call.

Excalibur 02-08-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackIce_GTS (Post 37941)
That's horrible though. And they're going to ban the Judge, because... 'OMG, shotgun shells, scary!' or something.
aren't[/url]. Unless you're a snake.)

It was only a matter of time before they banned the Judge since it fires a .410 shotgun shell and think that makes it a short barrel shotgun.

The Wierd It 02-09-2013 01:28 PM

It's worse than that apparently. There's also going to be a ban on Hollow-point rounds and the latest neologism, the "assault bullet".

Excalibur 02-09-2013 04:26 PM

I think at least one state already banned Hollow Points. That's why ammo companies invented similar rounds to the Federal Guard dogs, which is not technically a hollow point.

It's stupid to ban hollow point. Several court cases I've read spoke out against using FMJ in personal defense.

The Wierd It 02-09-2013 04:30 PM

I think it's more the fact that they want to insert another pointless open-ended neologism into the law so they have a justification for banning more stuff, only instead of "Assault Weapon" it's now "Assault Bullet".

funkychinaman 02-09-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 37960)
I think at least one state already banned Hollow Points. That's why ammo companies invented similar rounds to the Federal Guard dogs, which is not technically a hollow point.

It's stupid to ban hollow point. Several court cases I've read spoke out against using FMJ in personal defense.

I believe New Jersey has banned hollow points.

k9870 02-09-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 37962)
I believe New Jersey has banned hollow points.

banned carrying them for defense, you can still use them for home defense. Or hunting rounds. I remember once a nypd officer was arrested for carrying hollowpoints in new jersey. Its a stupid law.

Excalibur 02-10-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 37963)
banned carrying them for defense, you can still use them for home defense. Or hunting rounds. I remember once a nypd officer was arrested for carrying hollowpoints in new jersey. Its a stupid law.

Now that's stupid when the LEOs are getting into trouble for trying to adequately protect themselves. A cop can get permission and certified to carry a gun on a plane, but civilians can't. Cops to many people are just strangers that we hope are doing their jobs. How's that different from you and me, strangers that are armed and responsible.

funkychinaman 02-10-2013 03:00 AM

You're not talking about this, are you?

Excalibur 02-10-2013 06:42 AM

No, there's a difference in pretending to do a job you didn't qualify for and just being a responsible armed citizen. I'm not going to pretend to be a firefighter, but if I have a chance to stop a fire or save a life, I can't wait for the "real professionals" show up and before you make a comment about that, no, I am not trying to be a hero either.


And that article really needed to put this down? "Upon arrest, police said they found a Glock 40-caliber handgun loaded with hollow point bullets hidden in Andreu’s waistband. The weapon had a round chambered, police said." What's the purpose of that statement other than saying Glocks are evil in the hands of civilians, 40 caliber handguns are evil in the hands of civilians. Hollow points are evil in the hands of civilians and having a round in the chamber is evil in the hands of civilians.

funkychinaman 02-10-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 37968)
No, there's a difference in pretending to do a job you didn't qualify for and just being a responsible armed citizen. I'm not going to pretend to be a firefighter, but if I have a chance to stop a fire or save a life, I can't wait for the "real professionals" show up and before you make a comment about that, no, I am not trying to be a hero either.


And that article really needed to put this down? "Upon arrest, police said they found a Glock 40-caliber handgun loaded with hollow point bullets hidden in Andreu’s waistband. The weapon had a round chambered, police said." What's the purpose of that statement other than saying Glocks are evil in the hands of civilians, 40 caliber handguns are evil in the hands of civilians. Hollow points are evil in the hands of civilians and having a round in the chamber is evil in the hands of civilians.

I went on Google trying to find it, and this was the closest thing I found.


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