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Spartan198 05-21-2022 11:10 AM

M4 or M4LE?
 
I'm going to be screencapping Inside Eden's Gate, a tie-in prequel short film to Far Cry 5 made by Ubisoft. As probably expected, there are quite a few of what look to be M4s in it, but they're all notably only fired in semi-automatic all through the film although no close-ups of the fire selectors were ever shown. Would this alone be enough to consider them M4LEs aka LE6921s rather than actual M4s?

MT2008 07-08-2022 10:26 PM

I guess the question is - what's their barrel length?

On IMFDB, we generally treat "M4" as a descriptor of a type of firearm resembling a military-issue M4-pattern carbine, same as we do for M16A1, M16A2, etc. That is, of course, unless we have visual ID on the specific make-and-model of the weapon. Likewise: We typically use Colt Law Enforcement Carbine as the descriptor for any weapon patterned after a civilian "M4gery" with a longer 16" barrel, if we're not sure whether or not it's an actual Colt LE6920/6921.

commando552 07-09-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 45465)
I guess the question is - what's their barrel length?

On IMFDB, we generally treat "M4" as a descriptor of a type of firearm resembling a military-issue M4-pattern carbine, same as we do for M16A1, M16A2, etc. That is, of course, unless we have visual ID on the specific make-and-model of the weapon. Likewise: We typically use Colt Law Enforcement Carbine as the descriptor for any weapon patterned after a civilian "M4gery" with a longer 16" barrel, if we're not sure whether or not it's an actual Colt LE6920/6921.

Having looked at the film on youtube in this case it is academic, as the guns in question are neither as they have A1E1 uppers.

MT2008 07-11-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 45467)
Having looked at the film on youtube in this case it is academic, as the guns in question are neither as they have A1E1 uppers.

OK, I just watched it myself, and agree - I don't think they're LE6920-pattern carbines. They have 16" barrels that don't have a step (i.e., not M4 GOV-profile), and A1E1 receivers. But they also have Colt LE-style stocks and handguards which look like DPMS handguards.

I wonder if they're actually DPMS Panther variants? I used to own one, but mine had a flattop upper. I didn't think DPMS offered those guns with A1E1 receivers, though.


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