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Rockwolf66 08-17-2018 10:33 PM

Larry Vickers at ISS
 
Larry Vickers is at ISS and showing off weapons.

https://youtu.be/YWi63fOea2M

Spartan198 08-20-2018 06:04 PM

Larry sure has slimmed down. And they stuck poor Chen in the background. :(

Mike Searson 08-20-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 44465)
Larry sure has slimmed down. And they stuck poor Chen in the background. :(

And Andy Ho!

Spartan198 08-21-2018 01:17 AM

SMG Lee should always be front and center!

Mike Searson 08-21-2018 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 44467)
SMG Lee should always be front and center!

This is true!

Excalibur 08-25-2018 12:45 AM

Does anybody want to cap the guns they are showing in these videos and put them up? We'll never get a chance to see the exact guns up close

Rockwolf66 08-25-2018 01:37 AM

And part 2 is up.

https://youtu.be/mxOhxZcO8v0

Rockwolf66 09-01-2018 01:08 AM

Part 3 is up.

https://youtu.be/dFmiV08o3YY

MT2008 09-18-2018 12:51 AM

I've learned a lot about ISS' guns over the years, but Larry definitely learned some stuff that I hadn't heard before. Interesting tidbits:

- ISS' armorers are a bit frustrated that the Colt .38 machine pistol from "Public Enemies" didn't get more screen time, given the effort that went into finding a historically accurate gun and doing the mods.

- The S&W 4506s from "Training Day" (used by Denzel Washington) are the same ones later used in "The Shield" (used by Michael Chiklis).

- There are only two AA-12s in all of Hollywood, and ISS owns both. (Read: Every film/TV appearance of the AA-12 that we've documented on IMFDB - from "The Expendables" to "Breaking Bad" - is one of the same two guns.)

- The 1911 from "Sons of Anarchy" is a Springfield Bureau Model slide on a frame from another Springfield 1911. (We've had it down - incorrectly - as a Springfield Custom Professional 1911-A1 for many years now.)

- The Mark 18 Mod 0 from "American Sniper" was built on an XM16E1 lower receiver from a batch of AR lowers that is so old that ISS is now taking them out of rental circulation (which Larry Vickers says will "haunt" him).

Excalibur 09-22-2018 01:09 AM

To add to the trivia about the MK 18 used in American Sniper, they actually put correct PEQ between scenes to show the progression of time from the PEQ-2 to the PEQ-15 by the end of the movie

Excalibur 11-23-2019 09:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnc9saxJ-a4

Rockwolf66 11-24-2019 05:18 AM

Excaliber beat me to it.

Spartan198 11-24-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 44840)

I have to question how a Block II M4 could be seen as not the "latest and greatest" or "locally sourced" in South America when only the United States uses that configuration.

I blame Cool Gun Syndrome instead.

Excalibur 11-25-2019 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 44844)
I have to question how a Block II M4 could be seen as not the "latest and greatest" or "locally sourced" in South America when only the United States uses that configuration.

I blame Cool Gun Syndrome instead.

I think we've made comments about that but also why Pedro Pascal's rifle only had the rear sight and no front sight. I understand if it had NO iron sights, but I don't see any advantages of just having the rear sight present. They kinda drop the ball on that one. Ben Afflek's M4 is pretty reasonable. It's pretty basic with an older EOTech

Excalibur 11-25-2019 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockwolf66 (Post 44841)
Excaliber beat me to it.

You wanna take screen caps of the guns and put it on the site?

MT2008 11-26-2019 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 44844)
I have to question how a Block II M4 could be seen as not the "latest and greatest" or "locally sourced" in South America when only the United States uses that configuration.

I blame Cool Gun Syndrome instead.

I guess they figured that because it uses a Picatinny quad rail instead of a modular rail (Keymod or M-LOK), and an ACOG rather than some type of LPVO, it's not exactly the "latest and greatest" (basically, state-of-the-art for 2009, but not 2019). Even though obviously, IRL, the Block II-style M4A1s are still standard-issue for most U.S. SOCOM personnel, since the Geissele URGI and the new Nightforce and Vortex scopes haven't been issued yet.

On another note, ever since I saw the movie, I've wondered whether that M4A1 Block II is a Colt rifle retrofitted with a RIS II, or one of ISS's Daniel Defense M4A1s (the ones that they bought originally for "Sicario" in 2014-15) retrofitted with Magpul furniture. After seeing this video, I now believe that it is in fact the DD rifle, because around 11:33, you can just see the white laser markings on the left side of the receiver, and the flash hider also looks like a DD-style flash hider.

EDIT 12-15-19: In case anyone cares (or wants to add this info to the movie page on IMFDB), I've learned that Garret Hedlund's M4A1 Block II from this film is a Daniel Defense M4A1 upper on a Noveske N4 lower. The upper is indeed taken from one of the "Sicaro" weapons. Charlie Hunnam's M933 is also built on a Noveske N4 lower (also, the upper was originally acquired for "Transformers" in 2007, which is probably not a huge surprise).


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