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hotborad 11-24-2010 07:09 PM

Me getting an Ar-15
 
So im new to the rifle and shotgun world. I'm well knowledged with my pistols. But I never received a gun license because the guns were manufactured and bought before any of the gun laws where implemented. Im interested in buying an AR-15 online because none of the dealers near me have any AKA I live in the boones.
Here are the specs im interested in also where to buy beside http://www.ar15builder.com/

-11.5inch barrel
-carbine handrail
-flattop receiver
-standard lower receiver
-adjustable stock
-10round magazine .22lr with conversion

Any tips or suggestions would be great also how do i get the FFL for online purchase Id rather just fill it out in store and stuff but id rather have the gun fully assembled. But so far i have yet to find a full assembled AR-15 with a 11.5 barrel. Also a concern of mine is not having all the parts for the gun having to buy more parts not knowing if their right sizes etc...

Spades of Columbia 11-24-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22515)
So im new to the rifle and shotgun world. I'm well knowledged with my pistols. But I never received a gun license because the guns were manufactured and bought before any of the gun laws where implemented. Im interested in buying an AR-15 online because none of the dealers near me have any AKA I live in the boones.
Here are the specs im interested in also where to buy beside http://www.ar15builder.com/

-11.5inch barrel
-carbine handrail
-flattop receiver
-standard lower receiver
-adjustable stock
-10round magazine .22lr with conversion

Any tips or suggestions would be great also how do i get the FFL for online purchase Id rather just fill it out in store and stuff but id rather have the gun fully assembled. But so far i have yet to find a full assembled AR-15 with a 11.5 barrel. Also a concern of mine is not having all the parts for the gun having to buy more parts not knowing if their right sizes etc...

For the 11.5" you'll need to go to a Class III dealer and pay the additional $200 tax stamp...you need to do this before you get the gun and it could take up to 6 months for a SBR.

hotborad 11-24-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spades of Columbia (Post 22516)
For the 11.5" you'll need to go to a Class III dealer and pay the additional $200 tax stamp...you need to do this before you get the gun and it could take up to 6 months for a SBR.

Are you serious will I still have to go to class III dealer if its a 16in barrel? Also whats an SBR sorry im new to this legal world of guns.

S&Wshooter 11-24-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22517)
Are you serious will I still have to go to class III dealer if its a 16in barrel? Also whats an SBR sorry im new to this legal world of guns.

16 is standard

S&Wshooter 11-24-2010 08:24 PM

There are several different AR manufacturers out there that are fantastic. I personally recommend Stag Arms but the other guys will probably have suggestions as well

hotborad 11-24-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 22518)
16 is standard

Cool thanks so where can I buy one besides Online I preferably would like flat-top and adjustable stock. With two piece handguard no RIS system for handguard. And assembled or mostly assembled I will take it apart but id rather start with it already together. By the way im lookin to spend around 800 dollars or less. I live in south carolina. Also thanks for Stag arms looks nice but how do I get an FFL and how much does that cost.

S&Wshooter 11-24-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22522)
Cool thanks so where can I buy one besides Online I preferably would like flat-top and adjustable stock. With two piece handguard no RIS system for handguard. And assembled or mostly assembled I will take it apart but id rather start with it already together. By the way im lookin to spend around 800 dollars or less. I live in south carolina. Also thanks for Stag arms looks nice but how do I get an FFL and how much does that cost.

Gunbroker is a good place to buy a gun and if you ask, the guys at the gunshop will help you out with the FFL part

hotborad 11-24-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 22523)
Gunbroker is a good place to buy a gun and if you ask, the guys at the gunshop will help you out with the FFL part

Thanks for all your help S&Wshooter it is greatly appreciated and I will probably ask around next time I hit the range.

Spades of Columbia 11-24-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22522)
Cool thanks so where can I buy one besides Online I preferably would like flat-top and adjustable stock. With two piece handguard no RIS system for handguard. And assembled or mostly assembled I will take it apart but id rather start with it already together. By the way im lookin to spend around 800 dollars or less. I live in south carolina. Also thanks for Stag arms looks nice but how do I get an FFL and how much does that cost.

You wouldn't get a ffl...you would find someone in your area that has a ffl and then you will have a gun sent to that person/business and do the background check there or you can straight out buy it at that ffl owner...I personally like S&W M&P15 but for under $800 your most likely looking at DPMS and its called a optic-only model if you want a flat top for cheaper...and SBR is Short Barrel Rifle

Excalibur 11-24-2010 09:14 PM

if you want an AR-15 that shoots .22, you could just get any of the guns that were built as a .22 instead of a conversion and those .22 rifles are only about 500. You'd need different magazines as well for .22?

Is there a reason you want 10 round mags? I don't think South Carolina have a magazine law against higher capacity unless you plan on hunting with your AR-15, then I think 10 rounds is the rule for hunting with an AR-15.

hotborad 11-25-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 22526)
if you want an AR-15 that shoots .22, you could just get any of the guns that were built as a .22 instead of a conversion and those .22 rifles are only about 500. You'd need different magazines as well for .22?

Is there a reason you want 10 round mags? I don't think South Carolina have a magazine law against higher capacity unless you plan on hunting with your AR-15, then I think 10 rounds is the rule for hunting with an AR-15.

There isnt any big reason but I may move to a highly populated area like new york or something and im not sure what the magazine laws are so I wanted to be on the safe side and if 10 isnt enough I will go buy a 30 round magazine. And the reason I want the .223 conversion to .22lr is i might use it to go hunting with my buddies of mine. Also some of those .22lr are ugly as mess if you find a .22lr that looks like a ar-15 5.56 nato then im set but besides that ill stick to larger cailbers. Honestly a 9mm Ar-15 would be my wet dream but i havent found any. And tell you the honest truth an MP5 would be my gun but their so rare expecially a semi-auto one. The only thing I have heard of is the HK94 which was from the 1980s which is horrible. But yeah I considering other guns any semi-auto rifle with full customization like the Ar-15.

MT2008 11-25-2010 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22530)
There isnt any big reason but I may move to a highly populated area like new york or something and im not sure what the magazine laws are so I wanted to be on the safe side and if 10 isnt enough I will go buy a 30 round magazine. And the reason I want the .223 conversion to .22lr is i might use it to go hunting with my buddies of mine. Also some of those .22lr are ugly as mess if you find a .22lr that looks like a ar-15 5.56 nato then im set but besides that ill stick to larger cailbers. Honestly a 9mm Ar-15 would be my wet dream but i havent found any. And tell you the honest truth an MP5 would be my gun but their so rare expecially a semi-auto one. The only thing I have heard of is the HK94 which was from the 1980s which is horrible. But yeah I considering other guns any semi-auto rifle with full customization like the Ar-15.

If you move to New York, the magazine isn't the only thing that's regulated. The rifle itself will also be subject to NY's own Assault Weapons Ban (it still has one).

Excalibur 11-25-2010 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22530)
There isnt any big reason but I may move to a highly populated area like new york or something and im not sure what the magazine laws are so I wanted to be on the safe side and if 10 isnt enough I will go buy a 30 round magazine. And the reason I want the .223 conversion to .22lr is i might use it to go hunting with my buddies of mine. Also some of those .22lr are ugly as mess if you find a .22lr that looks like a ar-15 5.56 nato then im set but besides that ill stick to larger cailbers. Honestly a 9mm Ar-15 would be my wet dream but i havent found any. And tell you the honest truth an MP5 would be my gun but their so rare expecially a semi-auto one. The only thing I have heard of is the HK94 which was from the 1980s which is horrible. But yeah I considering other guns any semi-auto rifle with full customization like the Ar-15.

A 9mm AR-15 is also very rare and an civilian MP5 like the HK94 is extremely rare nowadays.

Unless you are hunting little rabbits, I don't think a .22 can kill anything big.

Seriously don't go to New York, that's anti gun country. You should really check your local gun laws. Go to your police stations and ask or better yet, just look it up online.

Gunmaster45 11-25-2010 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hotborad (Post 22530)
There isnt any big reason but I may move to a highly populated area like new york or something and im not sure what the magazine laws are so I wanted to be on the safe side and if 10 isnt enough I will go buy a 30 round magazine. And the reason I want the .223 conversion to .22lr is i might use it to go hunting with my buddies of mine. Also some of those .22lr are ugly as mess if you find a .22lr that looks like a ar-15 5.56 nato then im set but besides that ill stick to larger cailbers. Honestly a 9mm Ar-15 would be my wet dream but i havent found any. And tell you the honest truth an MP5 would be my gun but their so rare expecially a semi-auto one. The only thing I have heard of is the HK94 which was from the 1980s which is horrible. But yeah I considering other guns any semi-auto rifle with full customization like the Ar-15.

I live in upstate New York, the magazine limit here is 10 round only magazines unless you have bought preban hi-caps. You also can't have a folding/collapsing stock, bayonet lug, threaded barrel, or barrel shorter than 16" unless preban as well. (The barrel though still needs a class III stamp if shorter than 16" regardless of pre or post ban).

Excalibur 11-26-2010 01:25 AM

Honestly speaking, I don't have a use for a bayonet so I'd get a barrel without it.

There's also technicalities on what a flash hider is.

S&Wshooter 11-26-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 22546)
Honestly speaking, I don't have a use for a bayonet so I'd get a barrel without it.

But...http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1254919941.jpg

Excalibur 11-26-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 22547)

I said a bayonet. A Gears of War inspired rifle is something else...ballsy

Spades of Columbia 11-27-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 22547)

That Gun Shop couldn't let that poor guy atleast have a empty mag to make the photo look a little bit cooler?!...He's in uniform i think they could trust him.

Excalibur 11-27-2010 05:25 PM

The odd part is that it looks like a DMR.

S&Wshooter 11-27-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 22582)
The odd part is that it looks like a DMR.

the chainsaw is a barrel weight/gun rest that cuts people up in case of CQB combat :p

BlackIce_GTS 11-27-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 22533)
A 9mm AR-15 is also very rare and an civilian MP5 like the HK94 is extremely rare nowadays.

My mental perception of the AR-15 is "chambered in EVERYTHING". From .50 BMG to .22LR to crossbow bolts. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get a slingshot upper.
"Got a knew AR upper the other day."
"Oh yeah, what's it shoot?"
"Rocks."

Anyway, here's this thing. No adjustable stock (I think it would be charitable to even call that foam tube a stock) and the barrel's only 7.25in, but it's 660$ and Bushmaster has a pretty good reputation. (right?)

Excalibur 11-27-2010 09:47 PM

Doesn't have a lot of range and it shoots 9mm. You might as well get a handgun for carry conceal and for home defense, you might just get a full size handgun.


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