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MoviePropMaster2008 02-02-2011 03:50 AM

I should have listened to GunMaster45.......:(
 
You heard it here first. He warned me about watermarks. I made invisible digital copyright electronic tags. Sure that's great when you want to actually prove that an image is your (in a court of law), but it doesn't help when dozens of people are potentially stealing and claiming credit for your pics.

I should have listened to GM45. He was right all along.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/7/7c/Rug...aterMarked.jpg

So the question now is, watermarks that actually cross over the weapon? Your thoughts are appreciated.

predator20 02-02-2011 03:54 AM

Having one in the corner can easily be edited out. It does make them put in some effort when stealing your images.

Yournamehere 02-02-2011 08:52 AM

I wouldn't have them cross over the entire thing, it'll ruin your pictures. I think one in the corner is sufficient.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-02-2011 02:34 PM

Yeah, if we're lucky people will see the watermark and keep looking for a different picture. Whether or not they come back for the IMFDB original...

Jcordell 02-02-2011 04:19 PM

Not over the entire photo. Ruins the aesthetics. In the corner.

k9870 02-02-2011 08:50 PM

Great idea, corner seems best for aesthetic reasons. Is that an armory SR9? Still waiting for all the new rugers to show in a film.

MoviePropMaster2008 02-02-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 25098)
Great idea, corner seems best for aesthetic reasons. Is that an armory SR9? Still waiting for all the new rugers to show in a film.

I noticed that GM45 has not chimed in with an "I told you so" ;) I wonder if he's even here any more :(

Yes, that is a blank adapted Armory Ruger. Rugers aren't that 'desirable' amongst movie makers. Most filmmakers are pretty gun ignorant (usually they're also cappuccino drinking liberals who have never touched a gun in their lives before .....) so they just ask for the same guns OVER and OVER and OVER again ad nauseum. Only when a big blockbuster movie starts using a more obscure gun, that is when you start seeing people asking for that by name.

I think a lot of the shooting community's disdain for Ruger semi autos spills over into the non-shooting community. Ruger makes SUPERMAN like revolvers. But the shooting community never liked Ruger's semiautos. Seriously I LIKE their new gun lines. Don't know if you have ever shot their older pistols (P85, P89, P94, etc.) but they are NOT COMFORTABLE to shoot and the ergonomics of the slide release, mag release, etc. are completely ALIEN to human hands.......

k9870 02-02-2011 10:52 PM

The reason I like the (new) ruger is they innovate and make new guns. And they are more geared to civilian gun ownership and USA made. Its sad that they had the dark days of traitor bill but the new folks in charge run a great company.

It does suck that some guns (like the beretta 92) are overrused in everything and cool guns that are popular in real life aren't used.

mpe2010 02-03-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 25100)
Don't know if you have ever shot their older pistols (P85, P89, P94, etc.) but they are NOT COMFORTABLE to shoot and the ergonomics of the slide release, mag release, etc. are completely ALIEN to human hands.......

My hands are average sized and the only thing that I find hard to reach on my P94 is the slide release. The mag release, de-cocker, etc are all within my reach.

k9870 02-03-2011 01:50 AM

I slingshot so slide release isn't a big deal.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-03-2011 09:29 AM

Hot damn the P-80 somethings were blocky and awful.

The SR 9 is cool though, heard mixed things about it, but it's cheap and it's a Ruger. Not a fan of mag disconnect.
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Frikkin' hate cappuccinos.

S&Wshooter 02-03-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 (Post 25100)
I think a lot of the shooting community's disdain for Ruger semi autos spills over into the non-shooting community. Ruger makes SUPERMAN like revolvers. But the shooting community never liked Ruger's semiautos. Seriously I LIKE their new gun lines. Don't know if you have ever shot their older pistols (P85, P89, P94, etc.) but they are NOT COMFORTABLE to shoot and the ergonomics of the slide release, mag release, etc. are completely ALIEN to human hands.......

And there is the fact that some of them tend to fall apart and/or fire bursts of 2+ at random

k9870 02-03-2011 09:17 PM

Your isolated case of the full auto p90 is not common and rugers are built like tanks, not prone to falling apart.

S&Wshooter 02-03-2011 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 25140)
Your isolated case of the full auto p90 is not common and rugers are built like tanks, not prone to falling apart.

I've heard many, many tales of them falling apart

k9870 02-03-2011 11:07 PM

And I know many, many happy ruger owners. My friend had a dog named ruger.

ersoz 02-03-2011 11:54 PM

I hope you don't mind.
Does this watermark look OK? (Watermark opacity at 20%)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45.../watermark.jpg

k9870 02-04-2011 12:39 AM

I like the corner one, covering gun just looks bad.

ManiacallyChallenged 02-04-2011 09:51 AM

The corner is a mediocre deterrent at best, but watermarks over the image I do not go for. It's a slippery slope, very hard call to make, etc.
At the end of the day, the pictures look much better and less distracting without the watermark. No watermark may not be a tenable solution however.

Up to you MPM, this stuff is your baby.

ersoz 02-04-2011 10:01 PM

You're right. Watermark over the picture doesn't look good.

Here's another option. This one would require some work but I'm pretty sure it would be deterrent.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...watermark2.jpg

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-04-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersoz (Post 25193)
You're right. Watermark over the picture doesn't look good.

Here's another option. This one would require some work but I'm pretty sure it would be deterrent.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...watermark2.jpg

Needs more gradation. You can circumvent this in MS Paint by setting the erase tool to erase the one color of the watermark. You can also use the instant alpha function in Preview for Mac. It would be a tad time consuming, though very simple.

ersoz 02-04-2011 11:31 PM

I use photoshop cs5 and prefer using the pen tool to crop pictures.
Also, there is no gradation in this pic. Just a drop shadow.
Since this pic was very high rez, I didn't have to use the pen tool, just the magic wand which worked just fine. The whole process took under 2 minutes.
If the gun was chrome/nickel plated I might have had to use the pen tool for the best result. It was not the case here.

But...Thanks for your advice anyways.

BurtReynoldsMoustache 02-05-2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersoz (Post 25199)
I use photoshop cs5 and prefer using the pen tool to crop pictures.
Also, there is no gradation in this pic. Just a drop shadow.
Since this pic was very high rez, I didn't have to use the pen tool, just the magic wand which worked just fine. The whole process took under 2 minutes.
If the gun was chrome/nickel plated I might have had to use the pen tool for the best result. It was not the case here.

But...Thanks for your advice anyways.

How was talking about how to erase/circumvent the watermark. Having variable shading or gradation in the watermarks would make my methods far more difficult.


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