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MT2008 10-02-2009 01:00 AM

Just got my new shotgun
 
Mossberg 500 Mariner. After a while, I realized I couldn't resist the silver look.

I'm charging my camera battery and cleaning the gun up right now, but I'll post some pictures in a bit.

Spartan198 10-02-2009 01:02 AM

Looking forward to it.

MT2008 10-02-2009 01:33 AM

Alright, here we go. I realize this isn't quite as unique or exciting as the stuff Nyles has, but it's the first shotgun I've ever bought, so I'm pretty excited, as you can imagine.

The last two have both the Mossy and my SIG 226 (which I haven't photographed in a while, but it has Hogue grips now). And of course, I made sure y'all knew these are mine and not something I jacked from some other site:

http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/2d/MTMariner-1.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/b/be/MTMariner-2.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/7/7e/MTMariner-3.jpg

Yournamehere 10-02-2009 01:43 AM

Good choice buddy! I was thinking about a 7 shot Mariner or the 590 Mariner just for capacity. Nevertheless, that is a tough, beautiful shotgun. I hope it serves you well. How much did the Mariner run you though?

Like I said, I researched some stuff myself, but in the end I too realized my ambition and got my Remington 870. I don't have a camera though and the stock on it is going to be replaced, but I'll see what I can do for pictures.

Congratulations, and again, great choice. Like the SIG too, man.

MT2008 10-02-2009 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 7309)
Good choice buddy! I was thinking about a 7 shot Mariner or the 590 Mariner just for capacity. Nevertheless, that is a tough, beautiful shotgun. I hope it serves you well. How much did the Mariner run you though?

Like I said, I researched some stuff myself, but in the end I too realized my ambition and got my Remington 870. I don't have a camera though and the stock on it is going to be replaced, but I'll see what I can do for pictures.

Congratulations, and again, great choice. Like the SIG too, man.

Thank you, sir. The Mariner was $425 new (I know I could have gotten it cheaper elsewhere, but I've been a bit too busy to go further than my immediate area).

I initially wanted an 870 Express Tactical, but I let myself get talked into a Mossy. Between the choice of tacticool and aesthetics, I got won over by the latter. I do appreciate the ease of modification (and I plan to put a pistol grip on it eventually) on Mossys. That, and the fact that the Marine Magnum is a lot more expensive.

k9870 10-02-2009 02:10 AM

And the express finish sucks, it rusts way too easy.

Yournamehere 10-02-2009 02:58 AM

The bluing is really finicky, but the black oxide (the finish on mine) is pretty good if you keep up with it. Scratches like a bitch, though. I plan on getting a new finish (hopefully duracoat) on mine ayway.

I think that the Mossbergs are plenty fit for duty sheerly because of the flush loading gate which makes it easier to load shells under pressure, and Marinecote is supposed to be a tough finish too. I would have gotten an 870 Marine if there were any in my area, and they didn't cost 300 more than a standard. Not sure how well the stuff stands up to scratches either, but damn it's cool looking and functional!

You think you'd put a heat shield on yours? CTD sells factory ones with the Marinecote finish, and it would look so cool.

Jcordell 10-02-2009 03:08 AM

You sir are ready for the zombies now. Or is it commies? I get confused sometimes :confused:, but whoever the hell it is you're ready.

MT2008 10-02-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Checkman (Post 7313)
You sir are ready for the zombies now. Or is it commies? I get confused sometimes :confused:, but whoever the hell it is you're ready.

Communism is dead. The jihadists are who we have to be ready for now. I think, the only problem is that they don't have huge armies or any of that shit.

MT2008 10-02-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 7312)
Not sure how well the stuff stands up to scratches either, but damn it's cool looking and functional!

The one I bought doesn't scratch easily, but it's a bit dirty out of the box, so I am going to need to clean it up a bit (contrary to what I said earlier, I didn't do it before I took the pictures).

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 7312)
You think you'd put a heat shield on yours? CTD sells factory ones with the Marinecote finish, and it would look so cool.

Dunno about a heat shield, but I do want a pistol grip for sure. I'm shopping around for one online as we speak.

k9870 10-02-2009 03:33 AM

Theres still commies, or totalitarian assholes who call themselves commies.

Yournamehere 10-02-2009 03:48 AM

Mossberg is the only one of the big 3 (Winchester, Remington, Mossberg) that makes a decent factory pistol grip. As far as I know Remington doesn't make one at all, and Winchester's 1300 Pistol grip has a big gap between the grip and the trigger guard, which I'm not thrilled about. I suggest highly that you go factory, in fact, I'm surprised it didn't come with both a stock and a factory pistol grip, as some Mossberg guns are shipped and sold with both.

As for me, my options aren't fantastic. I'm not a fan of most aftermarkets, so I'll post likely get the Tac-Star Tommy Gun style one, but I'm also saving up for other things, gun related and non, so it'll be a while before I get toys for my toys. For now I like the full stock as it allows me to aim rather than just fire and forget, but a pistol grip would be fun for practice and recreation.

MT2008 10-02-2009 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 7319)
Mossberg is the only one of the big 3 (Winchester, Remington, Mossberg) that makes a decent factory pistol grip. As far as I know Remington doesn't make one at all, and Winchester's 1300 Pistol grip has a big gap between the grip and the trigger guard, which I'm not thrilled about. I suggest highly that you go factory, in fact, I'm surprised it didn't come with both a stock and a factory pistol grip, as some Mossberg guns are shipped and sold with both.

As for me, my options aren't fantastic. I'm not a fan of most aftermarkets, so I'll post likely get the Tac-Star Tommy Gun style one, but I'm also saving up for other things, gun related and non, so it'll be a while before I get toys for my toys. For now I like the full stock as it allows me to aim rather than just fire and forget, but a pistol grip would be fun for practice and recreation.

The Mariner apparently doesn't come with it as standard. I do remember being told while looking over some of the standard black models that those do get sold with the pistol grip. But yes, I will most definitely go factory.

Pistol grips aren't really all that practical (I certainly expect I'll be using the stock a lot more), but they do look nice and make storage a bit easier. It's something that'd be nice to have.

Jcordell 10-02-2009 03:32 PM

My department recently added new synthetic stocks with integral pistol grips onto our Remington 870's. It's very nice. Qualification scores went up immediately. Also added "assault" slings which makes things easier as well.

Try standing around for a couple hours with a shotgun. It gets heavy after awhile, but you can't set it down or throw it up on your shoulder. That's just what the news media would like to see. A police officer handling his shotgun like he's some sort of idiot. That picture would get into the newspaper.

The sling not only frees up your hands and gives your arms a rest, but it makes you look really tactical-cool. And that's important also. :cool:;)

Spartan198 10-02-2009 05:02 PM

Very nice. :)

I like the SIG, too.

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Originally Posted by Checkman (Post 7313)
You sir are ready for the zombies now. Or is it commies? I get confused sometimes :confused:, but whoever the hell it is you're ready.

I personally think zombies are the more credible threat out of the two.

MT2008 10-02-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 7317)
Theres still commies, or totalitarian assholes who call themselves commies.

At this point, I think the PRC and DPRK have moved so far from Marxist ideology that their proper label is just "ultra-nationalist", even if they still call themselves "socialist".

But anyway, the only threat I worry about is the Latino gangs who are scattered throughout this area. I think the sound that my Mossberg makes when cocked ought to put the fear of Jesucristo into them.

Yournamehere 10-02-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 7344)
.....the only threat I worry about is the Latino gangs who are scattered throughout this area. I think the sound that my Mossberg makes when cocked ought to put the fear of Jesucristo into them.

Seconded. I live in a less credible area of town (as well as within a quarter mile of the state penitentiary) so a shotgun brings a lot to the table, and can take a lot off the table as well.

I still think, though, that in all practicality, not factoring in intimidation, that the handgun is the best means of home defense. In a close environment, a shotgun is a bit bulky, low capacity, and LOUD to be using in your own house, not to mention the collateral damage it could cause should you have to shoot it. With a shotgun, I believe that if you can't deter someone by saying "I've got a shotgun, you better leave" or that monstrous racking sound, it's not worth it.

Still, they are fun guns and convenient to have should something more than a petty thief threaten your life, but any long gun should be supplemented with a decent sidearm, especially a shotgun. MT2008 has himself a good, shiny shotgun and an excellent pistol, so he's in good hands.

Finally, as a zombie and gun enthusiast, a shotgun actually isn't the best weapon to have for fighting hordes of the undead, although it's not low tier either. The slow reload time alone is enough to drop it's rank substantially, not to mention that most shotguns can't hold more than 9 rounds and aren't useful past traditional pistol ranges. The only reason it's balanced out is by it's ability to accept raw ammunition without the need for magazines, shoot spreads instead of one single round at a time, and the fact that said spreads can cause massive damage to a head or even a zombie's center mass, rendering it at the very least incapacitated. Still, if you think it's going to be your only primary weapon, you'd better be running with a decent group, armed with other weapons like rifles, or be a masterful reloader and shooter of a tactical shotgun.

Opinions about effectiveness of weapons applied to undead enemies end here.

MT2008 10-03-2009 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Yournamehere (Post 7345)
I still think, though, that in all practicality, not factoring in intimidation, that the handgun is the best means of home defense. In a close environment, a shotgun is a bit bulky, low capacity, and LOUD to be using in your own house, not to mention the collateral damage it could cause should you have to shoot it. With a shotgun, I believe that if you can't deter someone by saying "I've got a shotgun, you better leave" or that monstrous racking sound, it's not worth it.

Still, they are fun guns and convenient to have should something more than a petty thief threaten your life, but any long gun should be supplemented with a decent sidearm, especially a shotgun. MT2008 has himself a good, shiny shotgun and an excellent pistol, so he's in good hands.

The SIG P226 will always be my nightstand gun, the one that I reach for if somebody's broken into my place (not very likely). The Mossberg is what I'll use if I hear somebody breaking into my car outside, or if there's some kind of disruption outside that is best broken up by the sound of a 12-gauge being cocked.

AdAstra2009 10-03-2009 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008 (Post 7353)
The Mossberg is what I'll use if I hear somebody breaking into my car outside, or if there's some kind of disruption outside that is best broken up by the sound of a 12-gauge being cocked.

Isnt there some kind of law that says they have to be in your house in order for you to confront them with a weapon/and or shoot them.

k9870 10-03-2009 04:20 AM

You can confront anyone in order to defened others or your property.

BTW, dont rely on racking a shotty to scare off intruders, it just tells them where you are. Most SD experts recommend not doing so.

Bugabear 10-04-2009 03:44 AM

Terrorists wouldn't dare attack us in our own homes. I think the war on terror shows how pissed off we got when they bombed us. And they only Commies that would be any threat to us would be the Chinese. But they're not real communists.

All that aside you have a very nice set of guns. I'd really recommend a pistol grip for your shotty but I dont think a heatshield would be necessary. Maybe a red dot sight?

AdAstra2009 10-04-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 7359)
You can confront anyone in order to defened others or your property.

Not in maryland

ShootingJames 10-05-2009 02:02 PM

Nice choice of shotgun. I dig the finish too. I'm a big fan of mossberg! I've owned a 500 "pursuader" for many years now and it's a solid and reliable chunk of steel.

Do you have an outdoor range, or some property out in the woods to shoot that baby?

k9870 10-05-2009 02:48 PM

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Not in maryland
So if you saw thugs beating down someone in the street or dragging a woman into an alley legally you cant do anything? Wow, good thing im not in a commie state. If someones busting into my car in my driveway i can go out there guns out.

MT2008 10-05-2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870 (Post 7400)
So if you saw thugs beating down someone in the street or dragging a woman into an alley legally you cant do anything? Wow, good thing im not in a commie state. If someones busting into my car in my driveway i can go out there guns out.

Yeah, I have never heard of any law in North Carolina which says that you can't brandish a firearm in self-defense outside of your home/apartment. Within my immediate circle of friends/acquaintances who own guns, I know two who have scared off hoodlums by brandishing firearms defensively against them. Neither of them seemed to think they'd broken the law.

And even if such a law existed, how would they enforce it? Do they expect the thugs themselves to go running to the police and say, "That muh'fuckin cracker pointed a shotgun at me while I was breaking into his car to steal his speakers, yo!" That strikes me as, um, counter-productive. :D

MT2008 10-05-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ShootingJames (Post 7399)
Nice choice of shotgun. I dig the finish too. I'm a big fan of mossberg! I've owned a 500 "pursuader" for many years now and it's a solid and reliable chunk of steel.

Do you have an outdoor range, or some property out in the woods to shoot that baby?

Nope, but I do know someone who does. Unfortunately, it may be a while yet before I get to try it out. I haven't had the time to do any shooting in months now.

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Originally Posted by Bugabear (Post 7373)
All that aside you have a very nice set of guns. I'd really recommend a pistol grip for your shotty but I dont think a heatshield would be necessary. Maybe a red dot sight?

Hmmm, I think the Mariner is a bit too pretty to start decking it out with "tacticool" accessories. If I'd gone with the 870 Express Tactical (my initial choices), then maybe I'd have considered it, but for a gun like this, it looks better "plain", I think. A flashlight is the only accessory (besides the pistol grip) that might look OK.


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