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SPEMack618 04-03-2013 11:00 PM

* feverishly runs off into his sister's room and dives into a box of her clothes in an effort to camoflage himself under layers of pink and lace*

funkychinaman 04-03-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38525)
In one of the cartoons, a very dark one that I could have sworn was a Sunbow, Snake Eyes kills Storm Shadow, after it is revealed that they trained together under the same ninja master, who Storm Shadow murdered. Snake Eyes then kills Storm Shadow.

Bazooka was also killed in that cartoon.

Quite a change from the comics, where it took like three years before a Joe was killed off for real, and it was General Flagg, and it took atleast 14 issues before that story line was resolved.

Smith, how can you be so cruel and insentive? I already have to deal with Duke being portrayed by a male stripper.

That was GI Joe Resolute, which sadly never went beyond a movie. I would've much preferred a Resolute series than Renegades.

commando552 04-03-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38525)
In one of the cartoons, a very dark one that I could have sworn was a Sunbow, Snake Eyes kills Storm Shadow, after it is revealed that they trained together under the same ninja master, who Storm Shadow murdered. Snake Eyes then kills Storm Shadow.

Bazooka was also killed in that cartoon.

Quite a change from the comics, where it took like three years before a Joe was killed off for real, and it was General Flagg, and it took atleast 14 issues before that story line was resolved.

I think you are thinking of the G.I Joe Resolute mini series from 2009 (which was pretty dark and really good IMHO), I seem to remember Storm Shadow killing Bazooka off screen near the beginning and then Snake killed him later (here is the scene in question). The only time I remember any mention of ninja training in the early animated stuff was in the movie where Jinx talked about being trained by The Blind Master.

Edit: FCM beat me to it, knew I shouldn't have wasted 10 minuted watching clips from Resolute on youtube...

funkychinaman 04-03-2013 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 38529)
I think you are thinking of the G.I Joe Resolute mini series from 2009 (which was pretty dark and really good IMHO), I seem to remember Storm Shadow killing Bazooka off screen near the beginning and then Snake killed him later (here is the scene in question). The only time I remember any mention of ninja training in the early animated stuff was in the movie where Jinx talked about being trained by The Blind Master.

Edit: FCM beat me to it, knew I shouldn't have wasted 10 minuted watching clips from Resolute on youtube...

I don't know why every actor who does Storm Shadow has to give him a stereotypical kung-fu villain accent. The guy is American, heck, he met Snakes Eyes (and Stalker) serving in the same unit in Vietnam.

funkychinaman 04-04-2013 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 38530)
I don't know why every actor who does Storm Shadow has to give him a stereotypical kung-fu villain accent. The guy is American, heck, he met Snakes Eyes (and Stalker) serving in the same unit in Vietnam.

Although, in all fairness, the Sunbow series didn't do that to Quick Kick or Tunnel Rat.

Spartan198 04-04-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38525)
In one of the cartoons, a very dark one that I could have sworn was a Sunbow, Snake Eyes kills Storm Shadow, after it is revealed that they trained together under the same ninja master, who Storm Shadow murdered. Snake Eyes then kills Storm Shadow.

Bazooka was also killed in that cartoon.

Quite a change from the comics, where it took like three years before a Joe was killed off for real, and it was General Flagg, and it took atleast 14 issues before that story line was resolved.

Smith, how can you be so cruel and insentive? I already have to deal with Duke being portrayed by a male stripper.

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 38529)
I think you are thinking of the G.I Joe Resolute mini series from 2009 (which was pretty dark and really good IMHO), I seem to remember Storm Shadow killing Bazooka off screen near the beginning and then Snake killed him later (here is the scene in question). The only time I remember any mention of ninja training in the early animated stuff was in the movie where Jinx talked about being trained by The Blind Master.

Major Bludd was also killed off-screen, apparently on Cobra Commander's orders, though I don't recall why exactly. It's been a while.

SPEMack618 04-04-2013 04:41 PM

Oh, yeah, I had forgotten Major Bludd. I actually watched Resolute on AFN while in the Sandbox.

funkychinaman 04-04-2013 05:19 PM

I think Major Bludd dying in Resolute was the first GI Joe character I've seen die in any of the series. (He died pretty early in the film, if I recall.) The Sunbow series never culled the earlier characters like Transformers did in Transformers: The Movie (nothing Michael Bay has done or will do can ever surpass this film.) TPTB even chickened out of killing Duke.

SPEMack618 04-04-2013 05:53 PM

Yeah, I remember that. As much as I love Duke, going so far a to use him as an avatar occassionally, I thought that cheapened the story line.

Spartan198 04-04-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38536)
Oh, yeah, I had forgotten Major Bludd. I actually watched Resolute on AFN while in the Sandbox.

I saw it when they showed it in movie form on Adult Swim. Prior to that, it had been aired as a microseries of 10 minute segments on either AS or online.

Excalibur 04-04-2013 07:05 PM

Just saw the new GI Joe movie. They brought in Channing Tatem back for 10 minutes of the movie and we never see him again? We don't hear about what happened to the other characters from the previous movie...that part kinda made my head confused a bit.

Other than that and the Cobra ultimate weapon idea and London getting the shaft again, the movie was really fun to watch

commando552 04-04-2013 07:14 PM

Also, Ray Stevenson as Firefly can be added to the list of British actors who cannot do an American accent.

SPEMack618 04-04-2013 07:17 PM

Yeah, the Adult Swim broadcast was what AFN screened. Got it all in one chunk.

People, my sister, fraternity brothers, squadmates, etc., always ask me why I like G.I. Joe so much.

And aside from growing up on the comics and action figures, I realized that the G.I. Joe team is what I aspire to be in the military.

Competent, brave, sure of purpose, ably led, and honest; the G.I. Joe is what the U.S. Military should strive to emulate.

Excalibur 04-05-2013 12:14 AM

So Disney has shut down Lucasarts which effectively cancels 2 pretty interesting games that were supposed to come out. That's on top of axing one of my favorite TV series Star Wars Clone Wars. So far, Disney is not winning me over with its purchase of all things Star Wars. Next thing they'll do is take away writers' ability to make Expanded Universe novels and comics

funkychinaman 04-05-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38544)
So Disney has shut down Lucasarts which effectively cancels 2 pretty interesting games that were supposed to come out. That's on top of axing one of my favorite TV series Star Wars Clone Wars. So far, Disney is not winning me over with its purchase of all things Star Wars. Next thing they'll do is take away writers' ability to make Expanded Universe novels and comics

I think I have two entire seasons worth of Clone Wars on my DVR. I just don't feel like watching it. Besides, it had itself a pretty good run for a cartoon. I heard it wrapped itself up as well. If you want to be angry at a Cartoon Network show ending, be angry about the cancellation of Young Justice.

As for Lucasarts, I've been reading about it these past few days, and look at it this way: they're a shell of what they used to be, and they're still going to license Star Wars games to third party developers, so it's not like we're never going to get any more Star Wars games.

Excalibur 04-05-2013 02:52 AM

The show did NOT wrap up nicely. It left on a huge cliffhanger with more closure. You really need to see season 3 through 5. It got dark as hell starting in season 4

funkychinaman 04-05-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38546)
The show did NOT wrap up nicely. It left on a huge cliffhanger with more closure. You really need to see season 3 through 5. It got dark as hell starting in season 4

Is it true they finally wrote Ahsoka out?

Chitoryu12 04-05-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38505)
Ok, I'll admit the Vigor and Salt powers is the developers ripping off themselves from their previous games.

I wouldn't call it a ripoff, considering that it's meant to be a sequel. The Vigor and Salt mechanic actually seems to be an edited form of EVE to something the developers wanted instead: you can't carry around huge amounts of full refill mana items that only give you a short pause in combat to fill everything back up. With Salts, you have containers that fill up small amounts of the bar that you need to pick up constantly, and your Salt bar starts out ridiculously low for the amount that each Vigor uses (you can run yourself too dry to do anything with 2 or 3 uses). One of the biggest problems with EVE, at least on normal difficulty, was that you would easily end up finding far more hypos than you'd ever use. It became virtually impossible to run out of EVE unless you spammed Plasmids constantly and needlessly. Preventing you from carrying spare Salts and increasing the amount that each Vigor uses forces the player to use alternate methods of combat instead of just spamming Devil's Kiss for most of the game and blowing up half a dozen enemies with each throw.

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Next thing they'll do is take away writers' ability to make Expanded Universe novels and comics.
Don't jinx us. If I remember correctly, the new trilogy is already supposed to ignore the Expanded Universe. This is worse than it would be for other franchises because Lucasfilm had set up a very coherent system of canon to determine what does and doesn't count, and virtually everything that's been released is considered canon in some form. The novels, in particular, have a huge fanbase of their own and more books than you could read unless you sat down for a year or so, quit your job, and kept reading until you fell asleep. Ignoring the decades and millions of words of content that have built upon the universe is basically going right up to every dedicated Star Wars fan and going "Meh, who cares?"

The Wierd It 04-05-2013 10:48 AM

So I finally got around to playing Medal of Honor: Warfighter yesterday. I didn't think it was all that bad.

commando552 04-05-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 38547)
Is it true they finally wrote Ahsoka out?

She quit the Jedi order at the end of the last episode, but they don't really write her out. The annoying thing is that they have episodes made that will never air on TV. With the announcement that they were stopping it they showed a clip from a future episode that was an awesome battle, where one of the clones had head trauma making him execute order 66 early and shoot his Jedi commander from behind in the head, which is pretty freaking dark for a cartoon. I think they are going to distribute them at some point in the future either online or DVD, but it is just annoying that the Episode VII means they pretty much dropped tools on everything else.

With Disney shutting down Lucasarts the other day the chances of 1313 coming out are looking slimmer and slimmer, particularly annoying as it was pretty near completion, and the fact that it now appears that Boba Fett was the player character.

Excalibur 04-05-2013 12:13 PM

You want dark, go watch the episodes where Darth Maul returns...holy shit those were just dark and disturbing. Or how about the season 4 episode about the slavers. or maybe the episode where Anakin straight up leaves a guy behind to be pretty much be killed for double crossing because the spy was in love with his wife

funkychinaman 04-05-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 38552)
She quit the Jedi order at the end of the last episode, but they don't really write her out. The annoying thing is that they have episodes made that will never air on TV. With the announcement that they were stopping it they showed a clip from a future episode that was an awesome battle, where one of the clones had head trauma making him execute order 66 early and shoot his Jedi commander from behind in the head, which is pretty freaking dark for a cartoon. I think they are going to distribute them at some point in the future either online or DVD, but it is just annoying that the Episode VII means they pretty much dropped tools on everything else.

With Disney shutting down Lucasarts the other day the chances of 1313 coming out are looking slimmer and slimmer, particularly annoying as it was pretty near completion, and the fact that it now appears that Boba Fett was the player character.

I give them a lot of credit for being able to walk the fine line between being a kids show, since it's still on the CN side, while still being mature enough to appeal to adult fans.

commando552 04-05-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 38555)
I give them a lot of credit for being able to walk the fine line between being a kids show, since it's still on the CN side, while still being mature enough to appeal to adult fans.

They didn't always do it successfully though. Rather than having the episodes being balanced it was more that they alternated between relatively dark and serious arcs and then stupid goofy kids stuff. Pretty much if the episode had clones it was good, otherwise it was a bit of a crap shoot.

Excalibur 04-05-2013 03:58 PM

I've actually never considered Star Wars Clone Wars a "kid show". It has a lot of themes that younger audiences might not understand much. There's a lot of politics and emotion in the story that even adults can enjoy.

funkychinaman 04-05-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 38556)
They didn't always do it successfully though. Rather than having the episodes being balanced it was more that they alternated between relatively dark and serious arcs and then stupid goofy kids stuff. Pretty much if the episode had clones it was good, otherwise it was a bit of a crap shoot.

I think that's what turned me off of the show, I think I hit a run of the kiddie episodes.

The thing that always bothered me about the show is that kids now think Anakin is a hero. I was discussing the show with my little cousin, who was five at the time, and I found out that he had never seen episode III (which is a lot darker than I and II,) so he had no idea that Anakin was Vader. (And I'm sorry to say I inadvertently spoiled it for him, but come on, is that still considered a spoiler?)

commando552 04-05-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38557)
I've actually never considered Star Wars Clone Wars a "kid show". It has a lot of themes that younger audiences might not understand much. There's a lot of politics and emotion in the story that even adults can enjoy.

I would agree with that on the whole, but it just makes the episodes that are more "kiddie" all the more jarring and out of place. For example there was that recent arc with the droid strike force with the tiny alien colonel inside one of them, that was pretty "WTF?!?" compared to the general tone of the series.

SPEMack618 04-05-2013 04:37 PM

I tried to watch the Clone Wars on CN, even went and saw the movie with a buddy of mine, specifically saying that I wanted a chance to root for the clones as good guys. However, couldn't get past the mood whiplash of the shoe bouncing back and forth from swerious arcs to kiddie arcs.

funkychinaman 04-05-2013 06:56 PM

http://kotaku.com/im-a-game-designer...-end-470868225

Interesting article by a shooter and a game designer.

Excalibur 04-05-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38560)
I tried to watch the Clone Wars on CN, even went and saw the movie with a buddy of mine, specifically saying that I wanted a chance to root for the clones as good guys. However, couldn't get past the mood whiplash of the shoe bouncing back and forth from serious arcs to kiddie arcs.

Yeah the first 2 seasons had that problem and parts of 3. For the most of 3 through 5, the series was pretty consistent with its mood, especially in the final season.......except the very long and unnecessary droid story arc. That went NOWHERE. I had been showing a buddy of mine the show as they come out and completely skipped this story arc. I'd rather play him episodes with Jar Jar than the droids.

SPEMack618 04-06-2013 05:38 PM

I can't quite bring myself to say "Olympus Has Fallen" was bad, but the CGI felt like something from the Sci-Fi channel monster movie of the week type film.

And even good old Morgan Freeman just seemed sorta flat.

And the fact that they conviently overlooked the Marine Barracks at Eight and I, specifically positioned there by Thomas Jefferson so as to have Marines within easy marching distance of the Capitol and White House.

And the obvious idiocy with the C-130 gunship.

And for all that, I just can't bring myself to say it is bad.

And why the hell do people insist on putting ACOGs on MP-5s?

Spartan198 04-06-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEMack618 (Post 38567)
And why the hell do people insist on putting ACOGs on MP-5s?

To effectively employ the weapon at its maximum lethal range. Same reason you put a scope on any other kind of firearm.

Excalibur 04-07-2013 12:16 AM

The effective range of an MP5 is 200 meters but when used in full auto and when your target is from the gates of the White House to the actual building itself, you might want to put those ACOGs on rifles than SMGs

Spartan198 04-07-2013 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38571)
The effective range of an MP5 is 200 meters

And at 650+ feet, a human being doesn't exactly rival Optimus Prime in size. I fail to see how an ACOG wouldn't be more than useful at such a range.

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But when used in full auto and when your target is from the gates of the White House to the actual building itself, you might want to put those ACOGs on rifles than SMGs
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Originally Posted by Trijicon's website
The simple substitution of a bright red dot for the usual cross-hairs makes it very easy to keep both eyes open. Just as in the Single point or Armson O.E.G. sighting, the brain merges the two images. During dynamic movement, the scene through the telescope blurs because the image moves more rapidly due to magnification. The one eye sees the bright dot against the blurred target scene, so the brain picks the scene from the unaided eye. The shooter swings the weapon towards the target while perceiving the dot indicating where the weapon is pointed. As soon as the weapon begins to become steady in the target area, the brain switches to the magnified view.

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/compan...o_trijicon.php

SPEMack618 04-07-2013 04:22 PM

I would like to see an example of any sort of commando unit making use of an MP-5 at 200 meters.

That kinda range is when bust out the assualt rifle, and hell even less than that.

My ACOG did far better service as a poor man's monocular than as a combat gun sight.

'Course, most of my actions invovled spraying return fire towards the direction of muzzle flashes. If the squad leader is blowing through mags, something isn't working right.

Chitoryu12 04-09-2013 05:27 AM

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I would like to see an example of any sort of commando unit making use of an MP-5 at 200 meters.
Well, do you know any commando units with declassified missions involving submachine guns?

funkychinaman 04-09-2013 03:11 PM

Another Batman game coming this fall.

http://kotaku.com/batman-arkham-orig...fall-471657142

The Wierd It 04-09-2013 04:00 PM

New Batman game with Deathstroke?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ierose/acb.jpg

funkychinaman 04-09-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wierd It (Post 38637)

I'm glad they didn't include the pirate boots.

Excalibur 04-10-2013 02:55 AM

http://kotaku.com/please-watch-the-f...sium-471868834

Spartan198 04-10-2013 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 38646)

Looks pretty cool. I hope we get to see him give "the privileged" the swift kick in the ass that they need in reality.


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