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funkychinaman 09-26-2017 04:12 PM

Since Aliens was the last good Aliens film, the rule should just be "Stop when James Cameron bails".

Spartan198 09-27-2017 02:31 AM

Genisys wasn't nearly as bad as reviews made it out to be. But if they're retconning a second movie out of continuity, I think they really need to just lay the franchise to rest.

And while I do like Genisys, I've always felt that Salvation was the perfect ending point as events had come full circle with John finally finding Reese and giving him the photo of Sarah.

Evil Tim 09-27-2017 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43821)
Genisys wasn't nearly as bad as reviews made it out to be. But if they're retconning a second movie out of continuity, I think they really need to just lay the franchise to rest.

And while I do like Genisys, I've always felt that Salvation was the perfect ending point as events had come full circle with John finally finding Reese and giving him the photo of Sarah.

Eh, gave up on Salvation when the terminator worms appeared and since then it's joined my physical copy of Doom 3 in being used as a coaster.

Spartan198 09-27-2017 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 43822)
Eh, gave up on Salvation when the terminator worms appeared and since then it's joined my physical copy of Doom 3 in being used as a coaster.

You mean the Hydro Bots? What's wrong with them? Humans have been building underwater robots for decades.

Evil Tim 09-27-2017 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43823)
You mean the Hydro Bots? What's wrong with them? Humans have been building underwater robots for decades.

I dunno, I just got to them attacking the helicopter and some part of my brain said "no, this is stupid."

Excalibur 09-27-2017 02:39 PM

I think because Salvation came out after Transformers 1 and there was that famous scene with Scorponok and it was just like this slinky robot thing

What bothers me all the time with Terminator is why would machines think the "head" of a robot is the best place for the CPU when clearly a spot deeper in the torso that's protected by more metal is the better place.

SPEMack618 09-27-2017 03:43 PM

I really liked Salvation. It should have either been the ending point as mentioned above. Or, in a perfect world, been the first movie of the trilogy about the actual war.

Tired of the time travel parts. I want to see John Connor leading the Resistance and killed T-600s.

Excalibur 09-27-2017 03:55 PM

That does sound like a nice end to 3 movies. Cap off the story with the loop. John meets his dad, saves his life and starts teaching him things and the movie fast forwards and ending to where he sends his dad back in time and we loop to remastered footage of Terminator 1 and that's the loop. No need for any more sequels or in betweens or retcons

S&Wshooter 09-28-2017 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 43822)
Eh, gave up on Salvation when the terminator worms appeared and since then it's joined my physical copy of Doom 3 in being used as a coaster.

Doom 3 is fun if you use cheats and do a chainsaw only run tho

Evil Tim 09-28-2017 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43827)
I think because Salvation came out after Transformers 1 and there was that famous scene with Scorponok and it was just like this slinky robot thing

What bothers me all the time with Terminator is why would machines think the "head" of a robot is the best place for the CPU when clearly a spot deeper in the torso that's protected by more metal is the better place.

I suppose it's possible that the CPU is in the head since the puny humans will aim for the CoM to hit the powerpack, so Skynet might be able to recover the undamaged head of a destroyed "veteran" Terminator and stick it on a new body. Plus a Terminator's skull could be a pretty solid chunk of metal since it doesn't need to contain much else, might even be more effective armour on the skull than the chest since the chest needs to devote a lot of space to the powerpack and arm and waist actuators. You see when John takes out T-101's CPU in T2 that it's buried right down in there and the skull is otherwise more or less solid.

commando552 09-28-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 43832)
I suppose it's possible that the CPU is in the head since the puny humans will aim for the CoM to hit the powerpack, so Skynet might be able to recover the undamaged head of a destroyed "veteran" Terminator and stick it on a new body. Plus a Terminator's skull could be a pretty solid chunk of metal since it doesn't need to contain much else, might even be more effective armour on the skull than the chest since the chest needs to devote a lot of space to the powerpack and arm and waist actuators. You see when John takes out T-101's CPU in T2 that it's buried right down in there and the skull is otherwise more or less solid.

There would be no point recovering the head of a "veteran" terminator for the CPU, as it is covered in T2 that when the Terminators are in the field they have their learning switched to "off" (John turns it on). There would be no difference between a Terminator that had combat experience and one that didn't as they do not actually learn anything from it. If we want to come up with a fan-wank explanation for why the CPU is in the head, maybe we can also say that it needs to be away from the powerpack for EM or radiation reasons or something.

funkychinaman 09-28-2017 04:08 PM

It's official, only the first two films count.

http://screenrant.com/terminator-6-t...nt-day-sequel/

Excalibur 09-28-2017 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 43834)
There would be no point recovering the head of a "veteran" terminator for the CPU, as it is covered in T2 that when the Terminators are in the field they have their learning switched to "off" (John turns it on). There would be no difference between a Terminator that had combat experience and one that didn't as they do not actually learn anything from it. If we want to come up with a fan-wank explanation for why the CPU is in the head, maybe we can also say that it needs to be away from the powerpack for EM or radiation reasons or something.

And they could be doing the whole Cylon thing and being connected to a network so all bots know where the others are

Evil Tim 09-29-2017 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by commando552 (Post 43834)
There would be no point recovering the head of a "veteran" terminator for the CPU, as it is covered in T2 that when the Terminators are in the field they have their learning switched to "off" (John turns it on). There would be no difference between a Terminator that had combat experience and one that didn't as they do not actually learn anything from it. If we want to come up with a fan-wank explanation for why the CPU is in the head, maybe we can also say that it needs to be away from the powerpack for EM or radiation reasons or something.

No, read-only is when they're "sent out alone" (I think that might only be said in the director's cut) not whenever they're in the field. Like Sarah says, it's because Skynet doesn't want lone Terminators contemplating whether the puny humans need to be kill'd.

S&Wshooter 09-30-2017 02:47 AM

Fallout is free on steam right now

Swordfish941 09-30-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 43839)
Fallout is free on steam right now

I signed up for Steam so I could get the game.

Spartan198 10-02-2017 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 43835)
It's official, only the first two films count.

http://screenrant.com/terminator-6-t...nt-day-sequel/

http://memecrunch.com/meme/BYPI/okay-i-m-done/image.jpg

StanTheMan 10-02-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by S&Wshooter (Post 43839)
Fallout is free on steam right now

Knew there was a reason I kept it around.. :)

Swordfish941 10-06-2017 10:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUjicxMPDzs

Hey kids, all aboard the Hype Train! *choo-choo*

My only gripe with this film is that Ramin Djawadi isn't returning to compose the score (thanks to his work on Game of Thrones, he's become one of my favorite composers).

Mandolin 11-03-2017 03:07 AM

So CBS's new SWAT show has the police with blue lasers. Might be the fist time anyone's used them in a movie/TV show.


Aside from that, it has potential. the pilot was a rushed mess that has a terrible forced Black Lives Matter plot, a rushed OTT ex-military bank robber plot, and Hondo's romance with his now-boss plot. Street is a stupid hothead, though I will admit he drives well, and Obligatory Female Character is a bit flat, but meh.

Spartan198 11-04-2017 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandolin (Post 43875)
Obligatory Female Character is a bit flat

Flat in personality or in ... other regards? :p

Mandolin 11-05-2017 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43876)
Flat in personality or in ... other regards? :p

Personality. Which isn't actually bad, as they're not tying to paint her as some superbadass right of the bat. She just isn't Michelle Rodriguiz

Spartan198 11-12-2017 03:40 AM

So, is anyone surprised the pilot featured a plot centered around an unarmed black man being shot by a white police officer? :rolleyes:

Excalibur 11-12-2017 04:03 AM

It's almost...almost trying to bait people to make it an issue when...no one cares anymore

Episode 2, Hondo takes a shot with a 10in 416 from a moving helicopter and gets a head shot.

Then there's a scene where the guy was storming the house with a shotgun and instead of shooting the guy when he enters, they jump him, trying to grab the weapon. Bullshit. There's a lot of grappling suspects that are clearly being a threat vs shooting them, even during the training scene in the beginning of episode 2

Spartan198 11-12-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43891)
It's almost...almost trying to bait people to make it an issue when...no one cares anymore

Besides liberals and BLM, at least. But since when have we cared what they think? ;)

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Episode 2, Hondo takes a shot with a 10in 416 from a moving helicopter and gets a head shot.
Yeah, I'm less concerned about that shot than him suddenly pulling a Black Hawk out of his ass.

Excalibur 11-13-2017 03:35 PM

When I was watching the previous scene when Hondo asked for a favor, I joked about asking for a helicopter and then...they brought a helicopter unironically....and I kept shouting that I was fucking joking

Spartan198 11-14-2017 07:13 AM

It'd be one thing if it was a Bell 206 or Eurocopter AS350 actually used by the LAPD, but a Black Hawk?

Excalibur 11-14-2017 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43895)
It'd be one thing if it was a Bell 206 or Eurocopter AS350 actually used by the LAPD, but a Black Hawk?

Maybe they think SWAT is the military

funkychinaman 11-14-2017 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43896)
Maybe they think SWAT is the military

I think I mentioned this before, but I was really surprised to see Black Hawks at all. I didn't think any were available unless you got help from the Pentagon. But I looked it up, and the government started selling surplus Black Hawks a few years ago.

https://www.verticalmag.com/features...awks-new-life/

Excalibur 11-14-2017 11:09 PM

It's no surprise. There's been government funding for police departments for years. People are against the so called militarization of the police force.

funkychinaman 11-15-2017 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43898)
It's no surprise. There's been government funding for police departments for years. People are against the so called militarization of the police force.

Unless a department actually needed the lift capacity however, a Black Hawk would be a waste of money. A smaller chopper would be far cheaper to operate and support.

And I don't know how you can question the militarization of the police. The government is literally giving them surplus military equipment.

Mandolin 11-15-2017 03:21 AM

I'm happy to report that the second season of Strike Back actually has blank-fire weapons in it rather than airsoft.

Evil Tim 11-15-2017 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 43899)
Unless a department actually needed the lift capacity however, a Black Hawk would be a waste of money. A smaller chopper would be far cheaper to operate and support.

And I don't know how you can question the militarization of the police. The government is literally giving them surplus military equipment.

Eh, most of the kerfuffle is about giving police MRAPs to replace their wheezy old armoured cars, most of which are obsolete military designs or derivatives of military designs already. Which, let's face it, is a better use for the huge fleet of the things that came back from Iraq and Afghanistan than scrapping them all. And it keeps them maintained (off the DoD's balance sheet, which I'm sure was a factor) while allowing them to be pulled back into service if need be.

It's more of the "military-style" stuff the media is fond of where it's a shorthand for "scary."

funkychinaman 11-15-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 43901)
Eh, most of the kerfuffle is about giving police MRAPs to replace their wheezy old armoured cars, most of which are obsolete military designs or derivatives of military designs already. Which, let's face it, is a better use for the huge fleet of the things that came back from Iraq and Afghanistan than scrapping them all. And it keeps them maintained (off the DoD's balance sheet, which I'm sure was a factor) while allowing them to be pulled back into service if need be.

It's more of the "military-style" stuff the media is fond of where it's a shorthand for "scary."

You can debate whether or not it's a good thing, but you can't deny that it's happening. I'm happy to see equipment my tax dollars paid for get a second lease on life.

Evil Tim 11-22-2017 06:17 PM

So Belgium's banning loot boxes and Hawaii's brining it up in the US. Bet EA's really happy about their recent decisions :D

Spartan198 11-22-2017 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 43902)
You can debate whether or not it's a good thing, but you can't deny that it's happening. I'm happy to see equipment my tax dollars paid for get a second lease on life.

It's certainly better than offloading them to some "friendly" Middle Eastern government only for them to be captured by or given to terrorists and used against us.

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Originally Posted by Evil Tim (Post 43903)
So Belgium's banning loot boxes and Hawaii's brining it up in the US. Bet EA's really happy about their recent decisions :D

From what I've heard, there's also a gambling argument behind it. I just hope it doesn't end up making it a crime to pop in GTA San Andreas and gamble away my accumulated in-game dollars in a Las Venturas casino. :(

Excalibur 11-22-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43904)
From what I've heard, there's also a gambling argument behind it. I just hope it doesn't end up making it a crime to pop in GTA San Andreas and gamble away my accumulated in-game dollars in a Las Venturas casino. :(

Gonna assume that's a joke.

I'm glad EA is getting hit with this and I hope this escalate to bans because loot boxes in game that requires you to pay real money to get a random item to artificially make you ahead of the game is bullshit

Spartan198 11-23-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur (Post 43905)
Gonna assume that's a joke.

That's just what I've read on other gaming sites.

funkychinaman 11-23-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan198 (Post 43906)
That's just what I've read on other gaming sites.

I don't see why anyone would care about gambling with fake money, assuming you didn't use real money to buy any.

Pinball machine were banned in many parts of the country for decades, also for gambling reasons. Paddles were added later, and it was successfully argued that it was a game of skill, rather than just chance.

commando552 11-23-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by funkychinaman (Post 43907)
I don't see why anyone would care about gambling with fake money, assuming you didn't use real money to buy any.

Pinball machine were banned in many parts of the country for decades, also for gambling reasons. Paddles were added later, and it was successfully argued that it was a game of skill, rather than just chance.

I think the logic behind the gambling thing is just that it "glorifies" gambling. In a kid friendly game like Pokemon I can understand people having an issue with stuff like this, but in a Mature (17+) rated game like GTA that has the player character murdering people and stealing shit, I think the gambling is pretty low down on the "corrupting of the youth" scale.


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